Hello,

Let's pursue this. Now adding GNOME Shell ML in the loop.
There's been a long discussion on this (see archives in
July<http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2010-July/thread.html>and
August <http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2010-August/thread.html>).
In the Ubuntu side of things, Unity's pursuing the menu on the top panel.
How about for GNOME Shell?

One of the most compelling options is the
AppMenu<http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/AppMenu>.
What's the status of this in GNOME Shell?

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Allan Caeg <allanc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Let's try 
> this<http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2010-July/msg00022.html>again.
>
> Upstream people are innovating when it comes to the menu bars and window
> borders. This is very obvious in popular web browsers: Firefox, Chrome, and
> Opera. Chrome is so liberal that it draws its own window border.
>
> Opera guys could be limited by the Linux desktop conventions and technical
> limitations so they settled with 
> this<http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7135/screenshot1rd.png>
> .
>
> As for Firefox, their UX guys respect the platform's conventions so they
> didn't add the Firefox 
> button<https://www-trunk.stage.mozilla.com/img/firefox/beta/4/features/screen-firefox-button.png>
>  to
> Firefox 4 Beta (yet, at least). They're also limited by technical issues so
> they can't provide the option to add it yet.
>
> The issue is great cross-platform apps are replacing the menu bar with a
> menu button (Firefox Button for Firefox, Opera button for Opera, and some
> unnamed button for Chrome) and tweaking the window borders. However, they're
> limited in the Linux desktop because of technical and UX issues. Tweaking
> the window border and menu bar break things and violate conventions.
>
> Conventions in Windows and OS X are evolving (see the ribbon interface and
> app buttons on Office, Paint, etc.) while the Linux desktop is limited
> (probably) because we can't make new things work everywhere (different
> window managers, desktop environments, etc.).
>
> What do we do about this? People involved in the Windicators project (I'm
> not) may know something that could help.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Allan
> http://www.google.com/profiles/AllanCaeg#about<http://www.google.com/profiles/allancaeg#about>
> +63 918 948 2520
>
>


-- 
Regards,
Allan
User Experience Designer and Advocate
http://www.google.com/profiles/allancaeg#about<http://www.google.com/profiles/AllanCaeg>
+63 918 948 2520
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