I just noticed that Firefox 4.0 beta 2 on Windows also has a menu bar<http://imagebin.org/109099>(activated by alt) and its contents are different from the Firefox button <http://imagebin.org/109100>'s (some stuff are in both menus, though). Apparently, the Firefox button isn't a menu bar replacement.
You might also be interested in a fresh mockup of the Firefox button ( http://people.mozilla.com/~faaborg/files/firefox4Mockups/firefoxButtonTwoPanes.png<http://people.mozilla.com/%7Efaaborg/files/firefox4Mockups/firefoxButtonTwoPanes.png> ). Right now, I can't think of any recommendation to accommodate these. Heeelp. LOL On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Allan Caeg <allanc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not showing the branding while the app is running may reduce cognitive > load, just like what MPT said. However, there are issues with this. > *Apps that are supposed to do the same things have differences that many > people know or need to know.* > Whenever I'm browsing, I have to know that it's Firefox, because Chrome > works differently. Some keystrokes won't work on the other app, some plugins > aren't present, etc. > > *When more than one app of the same kind is running, they would be tagged > the same way* > There are cases when we open more than one web browser or music player. For > example, if I want to use two different accounts on one social networking > site, I would run two browsers. Not being able to identify easily which app > is which would be confusing in this case. > > *Upstream vendors may want to keep their branding * > Some of them take their marketing so seriously that they won't even > consider this. This may damage our relationship with them, and may cause > them to brand their products in places that will be less fit. > > *This could make app launching more complicated* > When I launch Firefox, I would need to look for the Web Browser, Internet > Browser, or whatever window. That is confusing. It's even more complicated > for other apps like Sudoko. What should I expect Sudoku to be named after > launching it with whatever launcher (GNOME Main Menu, GNOME Shell, etc.) > > Regards, > Allan > http://google.com/profiles/AllanCaeg > +63 927 982 0592 > > On Aug 10, 2010 2:05 AM, "Martin Owens" <docto...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ryan, > > > > On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 11:22 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > >> While browsers might not be focused on branding, that branding is > >> still > >> there. My point, however, isn't the branding, but the fact that there > >> is > >> a brand. If we treated every web browser as "web browser" or every > >> email > >> client as "email client", how would people tell the difference > >> between > >> them? Branding, with different icons and application names, helps > >> this > >> issue, and there's a healthy level of branding exposure we need to > >> find. > >> If the window borders didn't have the application title, the > >> Application > >> Menu, with the icon as well as the name (so people can more easily > >> recognize the name), fixes this problem because you can tell what > >> application you have open no matter what window is focused, its > >> contents, or what the window title is. > > > > the branding falls back down to the operating system. It's Ubuntu's > > access to facebook etc. not Chrome or Firefox. > > > > Martin. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: > > https://launchpad.net/~ayatana<https://launchpad.net/%7Eayatana> > > Post to : ayat...@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : > > https://launchpad.net/~ayatana<https://launchpad.net/%7Eayatana> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- Regards, Allan http://www.google.com/profiles/AllanCaeg#about<http://www.google.com/profiles/allancaeg#about> +63 918 948 2520
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