Me too On 08/08/12 01:49, Ryan Gauger wrote: > > > On Aug 7, 2012, at 7:34 PM, Matt Richardson > <m.richardson.1...@hotmail.co.uk > <mailto:m.richardson.1...@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote: > >> I do like the idea of moving the window controls as you suggest, but >> the suggestion here was to move the indicators so that they fall >> outside of the window rectangle. >> I also agree that if users had a reasonable idea about system >> semantics then designing accordingly would mean design would match >> user expectation. >> My experience is that most users don't think about the system >> semantics. As an example, many people think of the office suite as a >> reason to choose an operating system, despite the fact that the >> office suite is not technically part of the operating system. >> >> Take that perspective on whether indicators should be moved outside >> the window rectangle and it's my opinion that most users would be >> more bothered by increasing the mouse travel distance than by >> semantically correct placement. >> >> Matt >> >> p.s. My use of the word 'surely' was simply a figure of speech. In >> future I will try to make it clear that I am expressing only my own >> opinion. >> >> On 08/08/12 00:43, Benjamin Bach wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Aug 2, 2012, at 2:45 AM, Matt Richardson >>> <m.richardson.1...@hotmail.co.uk >>> <mailto:m.richardson.1...@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote: >>> >>> > I often hear suggestions like this; about where something >>> should be >>> > placed or how it should behave because it belongs to this or that >>> > technical part of the system, but surely something should be >>> placed >>> > where it is most logical to place it in terms of user >>> interaction, not >>> > system semantics. >>> >>> >>> Not "surely". Just "maybe". There are not definitive answers. >>> >>> System semantics are important as well, because having a correct >>> understanding will guide the user's intuition.... blah blah blah. >>> >>> Anyways, here's an example of how to alter the top bar such that the >>> title of a window + its buttons will be correctly attached to the >>> so-called rectangle of the window, adhearing to those spacial >>> ("gestalt") laws of UI design -- without taking up more space: >>> >>> http://ge.tt/9qRlGgL/v/0?c >>> >>> - Ben >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~unity-design >> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eunity-design> >> Post to : unity-design@lists.launchpad.net >> <mailto:unity-design@lists.launchpad.net> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~unity-design >> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eunity-design> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > I like how indicators are now. > > ---Ryan
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