Do you remember Docky's docklets<http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-946RxcbSjwg/TmiKsPLUpGI/AAAAAAAASMU/L-RNwovLmIk/s1600/Docky-Ubuntu-Unity-Launcher-Alternatives.jpg>? I am sure I'm not he only one who loved them. They could do anything a widget is for.
2012/5/29 balint...@gmail.com <balint...@gmail.com> > Sorry Sunil Singh Rana, I posted my mail again to the wrong address... > > Widgets mainly are for displaying basic information like mail, weather > data, news feed, facebook notifications, etc without having to open a full > destop program. In my opinion there is no relevant difference in > Microsoft's Tiles-concept, the widgets, or therse badges with counters and > progressbars (like in the iPhone's home or the Unity launcher). Each serve > the same purpose: displaying live and immediate data. > I think rather than implementing widgets, we should extend the launcher > api, with more widgets/controls/or whatever they are called. Enabling the > application to display more sophisticated immediate data (Eg. a weather > launcher-icon could benefit from dynamically changeing its icon to a cloud, > or a sun, display temperature in the counter, also with units. A Facebook > launcher-icon could display tiny icons near its couner, indicating what > kind of event happened. And so on, and so forth...). > With further extending the launcher api we could reach much better > functionality then with widgets, or even tiles. At least as I see. > > sincerelly Csonka Bálint > > 2012/5/29 balint...@gmail.com <balint...@gmail.com> > > Widgets mainly are for displaying basic information like mail, weather >> data, news feed, facebook notifications, etc without having to open a full >> destop program. In my opinion there is no relevant difference in >> Microsoft's Tiles-concept, the widgets, or therse badges with counters and >> progressbars (like in the iPhone's home or the Unity launcher). Each serve >> the same purpose: displaying live and immediate data. >> I think rather than implementing widgets, we should extend the launcher >> api, with more widgets/controls/or whatever they are called. Enabling the >> application to display more sophisticated immediate data (Eg. a weather >> launcher-icon could benefit from dynamically changeing its icon to a cloud, >> or a sun, display temperature in the counter, also with units. A Facebook >> launcher-icon could display tiny icons near its couner, indicating what >> kind of event happened. And so on, and so forth...). >> With further extending the launcher api we could reach much better >> functionality then with widgets, or even tiles. >> >> >> 2012/5/29 Sunil Singh Rana <sunil.r...@gmail.com> >> >>> >>> widgets in >>> >>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Thorsten Wilms <t...@freenet.de> wrote: >>> >>>> On 05/29/2012 03:30 AM, Sunil Singh Rana wrote: >>>> >>>> *Why not be make Desktop a widget space.* Widgets that are locked or >>>>> >>>>> unlocked (to manage them) by some key combination, or a dedicated mouse >>>>> gesture. We could also put a lens on Dash called Desktop which would >>>>> look like a desktop and will allow us to manage all our widgets. >>>>> >>>> >>>> How about asking "why?" before asking "why not?" >>>> >>> I agree. I guess for the same reason we display some information under >>> the glass sheet, as I mentioned earlier. It gives a sneak peek into the >>> updated information, without having to move my mouse and click somewhere. >>> >>> *Does it appeal to the user? I think it is not very hard to find some >>> data from Google Play to check the number of installs of 'beautiful >>> widgets' ( 100,000 < installs < 500,000). Beautiful widgets are free to >>> download. If we go for HD widgets which costs some 2 dollar per install has >>> the number of installs in the same range. Data shows that widgets do appeal >>> to the user.* >>> >>> In android widgets have been a huge success. In fact, widgets have given >>> android a lot of advantage against Iphone. I keep reading, widgets as often >>> requested feature by Iphone Users, in the upcoming version of iOS. >>> >>> But anyway, regarding why not: >>>> - Users have to become aware of the widget functionality somehow >>>> (otherwise there can be no benefit, only cost) >>>> - It adds a potentially hard to understand distinction between windows >>>> of normal applications and widgets. After figuring out how to manage >>>> windows, users are expected to also figure out how to manage widgets? >>>> - Cost of yet another key combo and/or gesture >>>> - Widgets will need some visibility and stacking behavior that has to >>>> be specified, implemented, tested and documented. The desktop as it is now, >>>> with just the addition of widgets. would mean that any application window >>>> would always be above any widget ... >>>> >>> >>> I get your point and agree that it poses risks. >>> >>>> >>>> A lot of cost and risk. What are the potential benefits, the >>>> opportunity? >>>> >>> >>> >>> If I could, I would have the Google Plus, Agenda, Mail, Facebook, >>> twitter, weather widgets on my desktop. Together, it has the potential to >>> save several clicks. >>> >>>> >>>> What job is there for a "widget", that can't be fulfilled with an >>>> indicator or a small application (perhaps with a custom window appearance)? >>> >>> >>> Well, I roughly answered that. :) >>> >>> I wouldn't like to go to KDE for the widgets only. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thorsten Wilms >>>> >>>> thorwil's design for free software: >>>> http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: >>>> https://launchpad.net/~unity-**design<https://launchpad.net/~unity-design> >>>> Post to : >>>> unity-design@lists.launchpad.**net<unity-design@lists.launchpad.net> >>>> Unsubscribe : >>>> https://launchpad.net/~unity-**design<https://launchpad.net/~unity-design> >>>> More help : >>>> https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> सुनील राणा >>> >>> "Unselfishness is more paying only people have not the patience to >>> practice it." >>> >>> " 'I love you' is a wrong sentence as where, there exist 'I' and 'you' >>> love can not. 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