That's also a good point, Tim. We'll discuss it further with the team and let you know.
Cheers, Alfredo On 2 Aug 2015 11:39 pm, "Tim" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 03/08/15 11:40, Alfredo Hernández wrote: > > > > That's a great idea, Ali. 15.10 would be a perfect place to let everyone > know we've changed our branding; it might seem like forcing the new > > logo in everyone's throats, but at the end it will do more benefit than > harm. > > > Alfredo, I'm curious as to what benefit you think it will achieve? Its not > like people won't be exposed to the new logo anyway via boot screen, > login screen, ubiquity slideshow, social media, website, release notes and > most likely random news sites etc. I can't possibly imagine, that any > user could completely miss the fact that the logo has changed, regardless > of if its on the wallpaper or not? > > > > PS. We have super exciting ideas for 16.04 that will be developed > further when time comes. > > > > Cheers, > > Alfredo > > > > On 2 Aug 2015 10:21 pm, "Ali/amjjawad" <[email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Tim <[email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 02/08/15 19:23, Patrik Bubák wrote: > > > Hey Tim, > > > > > > the reason behind this wallpaper being branded is part of > introducing one of the major changes to the distribution - the change of > > the logo. > > > We always can, however, include it without it being the > default and people can opt to use it from the backgrounds menu. > > I'm not convinced that plastering the new logo across everyones > desktops will help this much, people will make the association pretty > > quickly > > once they see the plymouth screen, and then presumably a logo on > the login screen. > > > > > > Just to let you all know, I do see the point of both Tim and Patrik > here and I do agree with both at the same time. However, I attend to > > agree with Tim's point more. For me, I do hate (to be super honest) > to see a logo on the default wallpaper BUT it won't kill us nor anyone > > if we shall do it for once, only. That means, for 15.10 only :) > > > > With 16.04, the default wallpaper should have no logo nor Ubuntu > GNOME in there, IMHO. > > > > > > > > But really that is just my opinion and its up to you guys to > > make the actual decisions on this. > > > > > > Yes. > > The reason why there is an Artwork Sub-Team is to do each and > everything related to Ubuntu GNOME Artwork. Myself and Tim can only share > > our opinion ;) > > We do trust you guys so please, dazzle us! > > > > Even for planning, I don't really have to do your homework :P > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand it's nothing uncommon - Xubuntu does the > same. Many of their blueish wallpapers have been featuring the logo in > > the past and > > > continue to do so today. > > And many distros have moved away from doing this, in fact ubuntu > itself was probably one of the first to go with a recurring theme, > > but not > > plastered with branding. > > > > > > @Artwork Team. > > I strongly agree with Tim here. I do hate to copy others. I was born > original, I won't die as a copy. > > It is okay to learn from others and get inspired but doing the same > as they do? that is now how/where I want to see Ubuntu GNOME is heading :) > > > > > > > > > > > > For Plymouth we have something more subtle to smoothen the > transition. I think when I say this I speak for everyone, that we don't > > want to > > > disrupt the current paradigm too much, but slight cosmetic > upgrades here and there won't hurt anyone, conversely, we believe users > would > > > welcome them, since the default Gnome setup seems quite dated > and most users change most stuff after install (wallpapers, icons, > > themes...). > > the GNOME wallpapers have evolved significantly over the last > couple of years, if they were still using the blue blinds of the 3.8 > > era, then I > > would call them dated. But that is pretty irrelevant to this > discussion, I have no issue with us using a different wallpaper(s). > > > > > > I agree with Tim, yet again. > > > > > > > > > > > > To give you a better idea of what we were thinking about I'm > attaching a screenshot. It has not yet been decided, but we're talking > > about it. > > Now that we have systemd init, it might be possible to use a > proper progress indicator (i,e 0 - 100%), rather than the > > recurring/cycling dots. I > > know fedora do this. The problem before with upstart was that we > never accurately knew how far through the boot we were. > > > > > > Great idea and yet again, you're scaring me Tim :P stay away from by > brain, dammit hehe :P > > > > In short, I am sick and tired of the dots :P > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 19:12 +1000, Tim wrote: > > >> Hi Patrik, > > >> That looks awesome, however I am not really a fan of having > branded wallpapers, but really its the artwork's team call on whether > > to use it. > > >> Perhaps you could use some variant of it for the plymouth > (boot) screen? > > >> > > >> Tim > > >> > > >> On 02/08/15 08:07, Patrik Bubák wrote: > > >> > Gents, > > >> > > > >> > I would be thrilled if this < > https://www.behance.net/gallery/28367327/Icy-Abstract> would be our > official welcome screen > > (default) wallpaper > > >> > in the upcoming release. It's a modified version of the > previous one I sent you, a lot cooler, a lot more powerful. > > >> > > > >> > Enjoy... > > >> > -- > > >> > Sent using Evolution < > https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/> from Ubuntu < > http://ubuntu.com/desktop> > > >> > > > >> > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. > We call it the /Ice Cream Principle/. Tell 10 people to go get ice > > cream with one > > >> > condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That > flavour is going to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people > > don't agree on > > >> > what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to > agree on. > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > Sent using Evolution <https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/> > from Ubuntu <http://ubuntu.com/desktop> > > > > > > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We > call it the /Ice Cream Principle/. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream > > with one > > > condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour > is going to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people > > don't agree on > > > what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree > on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > > > > Best Regards, > > Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> > > > > *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME < > http://ubuntugnome.org/> > > > > -- > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-artwork < > https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-artwork> > > Post to : [email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]> > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-artwork < > https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-artwork> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > >
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