Hi all, On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Alfredo Hernández < [email protected]> wrote:
> That's a great idea, Ali. > Oh, glad that my mind is still working :P > 15.10 would be a perfect place to let everyone know we've changed our > branding; it might seem like forcing the new logo in everyone's throats, > but at the end it will do more benefit than harm. > Myself and Tim made it super clear :D It is your call, Artwork team and we just shared our opinion about it ;) But, if you guys will vote to add that wallpaper as the default one, or among the default, make sure not to repeat it with the coming cycles :P hehe > PS. We have super exciting ideas for 16.04 that will be developed further > when time comes. > Yes, I know because I do have the power to read minds :P But, I'd suggest or I'd say: dazzle me NOW during this cycle and let's worry about 16.04 later on :D Chasing two rabbits will get you none! > Cheers, > Alfredo > On 2 Aug 2015 10:21 pm, "Ali/amjjawad" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Tim <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >>> >>> On 02/08/15 19:23, Patrik Bubák wrote: >>> > Hey Tim, >>> > >>> > the reason behind this wallpaper being branded is part of introducing >>> one of the major changes to the distribution - the change of the logo. >>> > We always can, however, include it without it being the default and >>> people can opt to use it from the backgrounds menu. >>> I'm not convinced that plastering the new logo across everyones desktops >>> will help this much, people will make the association pretty quickly >>> once they see the plymouth screen, and then presumably a logo on the >>> login screen. >> >> >> Just to let you all know, I do see the point of both Tim and Patrik here >> and I do agree with both at the same time. However, I attend to agree with >> Tim's point more. For me, I do hate (to be super honest) to see a logo on >> the default wallpaper BUT it won't kill us nor anyone if we shall do it for >> once, only. That means, for 15.10 only :) >> >> With 16.04, the default wallpaper should have no logo nor Ubuntu GNOME in >> there, IMHO. >> >> >> >>> But really that is just my opinion and its up to you guys to >>> make the actual decisions on this. >>> >> >> Yes. >> The reason why there is an Artwork Sub-Team is to do each and everything >> related to Ubuntu GNOME Artwork. Myself and Tim can only share our opinion >> ;) >> We do trust you guys so please, dazzle us! >> >> Even for planning, I don't really have to do your homework :P >> >> >>> > >>> > On the other hand it's nothing uncommon - Xubuntu does the same. Many >>> of their blueish wallpapers have been featuring the logo in the past and >>> > continue to do so today. >>> And many distros have moved away from doing this, in fact ubuntu itself >>> was probably one of the first to go with a recurring theme, but not >>> plastered with branding. >>> >> >> @Artwork Team. >> I strongly agree with Tim here. I do hate to copy others. I was born >> original, I won't die as a copy. >> It is okay to learn from others and get inspired but doing the same as >> they do? that is now how/where I want to see Ubuntu GNOME is heading :) >> >> >> >>> > >>> > For Plymouth we have something more subtle to smoothen the transition. >>> I think when I say this I speak for everyone, that we don't want to >>> > disrupt the current paradigm too much, but slight cosmetic upgrades >>> here and there won't hurt anyone, conversely, we believe users would >>> > welcome them, since the default Gnome setup seems quite dated and most >>> users change most stuff after install (wallpapers, icons, themes...). >>> the GNOME wallpapers have evolved significantly over the last couple of >>> years, if they were still using the blue blinds of the 3.8 era, then I >>> would call them dated. But that is pretty irrelevant to this >>> discussion, I have no issue with us using a different wallpaper(s). >>> >> >> I agree with Tim, yet again. >> >> >> >>> > >>> > To give you a better idea of what we were thinking about I'm attaching >>> a screenshot. It has not yet been decided, but we're talking about it. >>> Now that we have systemd init, it might be possible to use a proper >>> progress indicator (i,e 0 - 100%), rather than the recurring/cycling dots. I >>> know fedora do this. The problem before with upstart was that we never >>> accurately knew how far through the boot we were. >>> >> >> Great idea and yet again, you're scaring me Tim :P stay away from by >> brain, dammit hehe :P >> >> In short, I am sick and tired of the dots :P >> >> >>> > >>> > On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 19:12 +1000, Tim wrote: >>> >> Hi Patrik, >>> >> That looks awesome, however I am not really a fan of having branded >>> wallpapers, but really its the artwork's team call on whether to use it. >>> >> Perhaps you could use some variant of it for the plymouth (boot) >>> screen? >>> >> >>> >> Tim >>> >> >>> >> On 02/08/15 08:07, Patrik Bubák wrote: >>> >> > Gents, >>> >> > >>> >> > I would be thrilled if this < >>> https://www.behance.net/gallery/28367327/Icy-Abstract> would be our >>> official welcome screen (default) wallpaper >>> >> > in the upcoming release. It's a modified version of the previous >>> one I sent you, a lot cooler, a lot more powerful. >>> >> > >>> >> > Enjoy... >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Sent using Evolution <https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/> from >>> Ubuntu <http://ubuntu.com/desktop> >>> >> > >>> >> > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call >>> it the /Ice Cream Principle/. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one >>> >> > condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is >>> going to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on >>> >> > what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on. >>> >> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Sent using Evolution <https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/> from >>> Ubuntu <http://ubuntu.com/desktop> >>> > >>> > Nothing ruins creativity like too many voices weighing in. We call it >>> the /Ice Cream Principle/. Tell 10 people to go get ice cream with one >>> > condition: they all have to agree on one flavour. That flavour is >>> going to be chocolate or vanilla every time. Groups of people don't agree on >>> > what's cool or interesting, they agree on what's easy to agree on. >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >> >> Best Regards, >> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> >> >> *http://kibo.computer <http://kibo.computer>* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu >> GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-artwork >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-artwork >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> -- Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." Best Regards, Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> *http://kibo.computer <http://kibo.computer>* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/>
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