On 07/02/13 12:02, Simon Greenwood wrote:



On 7 February 2013 11:59, Gareth France <gareth.fra...@gmail.com <mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    On 07/02/13 11:57, Simon Greenwood wrote:



    On 7 February 2013 11:52, Gareth France <gareth.fra...@gmail.com
    <mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        On 07/02/13 11:11, Simon Greenwood wrote:



        On 7 February 2013 10:43, Colin Law <clan...@googlemail.com
        <mailto:clan...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

            On 7 February 2013 10:31, Simon Greenwood
            <sfgreenw...@gmail.com <mailto:sfgreenw...@gmail.com>>
            wrote:
            > ..
            > On 7 February 2013 10:17, Gareth France
            <gareth.fra...@gmail.com
            <mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
            > ..
            >> Thanks Alan. I think the thing that gets to me is
            that aside from whatever
            >> I may choose to run on it I expect a machine I paid
            £300 for to run properly
            >> to begin with. None of these solutions address the
            problem. They more sort
            >> of side step it. I doubt I'm going to find the
            problem, I'll just have to
            >> avoid Packard Bell next time I upgrade.
            >>
            >
            > In all honesty, that is the place to start. Packard
            Bell machines are built
            > to a price, and it's fairly likely that they need
            OS-based accelerators to
            > work properly. I'm not familiar with that processor
            but there are probably
            > features that aren't supported by Linux and require
            Windows-native software,
            > and the GPU will be integrated and underpowered. I've
            had similar problems
            > in the past with more expensive machines and have
            since learned my lesson.

            The guy is not talking about just not getting the
            ultimate out of the
            machine, he has problems such as "tonight it ground to a
            halt, the
            hard drive access light went mad and the mouse stopped
            moving. Then it
            moved in jerks and a variety of windows greyed out and
            came back again
            over and over."  That is a software problem of some
            sort.  Something
            is gobbling up his processor or/and his RAM.


        Yes, I agree, and as previously described, I have seen
        exactly this problem, and on what would seem to be a more
        powerful machine. In the first instance, disable Flash and
        see if that stops or reduces the CPU load. In my experience
        it will. However, it doesn't solve the problem, and this is
        where I came to a halt with trying to analyse it. It is
        likely to be a combination of the Flash plugin, Compiz and
        the physical hardware, possibly one that hasn't been
        identified before, so to get some progress, it needs to be
        documented.

        However, I believe my point still stands: for all the work
        done to maximise compatibility, there are always going to be
        machines that don't play for less obvious reasons,
        especially at the low cost end of the market, and the rule
        still should be that if you want to use a Linux desktop of
        any kind do a little bit of homework. There is the official
        compatibility wiki but if you get the model number of any
        laptop and put it into Google, someone will have attempted
        to run Linux on it and reported on it.

        s/
-- Twitter: @sfgreenwood
        "TBA are particularly glib"


        Just to update everyone flash blocker didn't manage 5 minutes
        before both Firefox and system monitor  greyed out simply
        because I tried to close the monitor. As I'm typing this
        email Thunderbird keeps greying out and the text appears on
        the screen up to 45 seconds after I typed it. (So apologies
        for any spelling mistakes.) Rhythmbox is playing, well
        stuttering. That seems to be the biggest problem, I have
        noticed flash can be a drain but any media playing and it
        greatly increases the chance that the system will halt.


    Try starting Firefox and Thunderbird in safe mode. It's Help >
    Restart with addons disabled in both, and see how if that
    improves things.

    s/
-- Twitter: @sfgreenwood
    "TBA are particularly glib"


    I've switched to chromium to see what difference that makes. I'll
    try restarting thunderbird and see what happens


Chrome does perform a lot better, and I've actually switched to Opera as an email client as recent versions of Thunderbird have just plain struggled especially when starting up.

s/
--
Twitter: @sfgreenwood
"TBA are particularly glib"


I don't like switching too often to be honest. I've only just got things how I want them! Can opera receive RSS feeds? I have two linked to my supplier that tell me when products go in and out of stock, From my perspective I get an email every time they send out an entry on the feeds.
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