On 07/02/13 11:11, Simon Greenwood wrote:



On 7 February 2013 10:43, Colin Law <clan...@googlemail.com <mailto:clan...@googlemail.com>> wrote:

    On 7 February 2013 10:31, Simon Greenwood <sfgreenw...@gmail.com
    <mailto:sfgreenw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    > ..
    > On 7 February 2013 10:17, Gareth France <gareth.fra...@gmail.com
    <mailto:gareth.fra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    > ..
    >> Thanks Alan. I think the thing that gets to me is that aside
    from whatever
    >> I may choose to run on it I expect a machine I paid £300 for to
    run properly
    >> to begin with. None of these solutions address the problem.
    They more sort
    >> of side step it. I doubt I'm going to find the problem, I'll
    just have to
    >> avoid Packard Bell next time I upgrade.
    >>
    >
    > In all honesty, that is the place to start. Packard Bell
    machines are built
    > to a price, and it's fairly likely that they need OS-based
    accelerators to
    > work properly. I'm not familiar with that processor but there
    are probably
    > features that aren't supported by Linux and require
    Windows-native software,
    > and the GPU will be integrated and underpowered. I've had
    similar problems
    > in the past with more expensive machines and have since learned
    my lesson.

    The guy is not talking about just not getting the ultimate out of the
    machine, he has problems such as "tonight it ground to a halt, the
    hard drive access light went mad and the mouse stopped moving. Then it
    moved in jerks and a variety of windows greyed out and came back again
    over and over."  That is a software problem of some sort.  Something
    is gobbling up his processor or/and his RAM.


Yes, I agree, and as previously described, I have seen exactly this problem, and on what would seem to be a more powerful machine. In the first instance, disable Flash and see if that stops or reduces the CPU load. In my experience it will. However, it doesn't solve the problem, and this is where I came to a halt with trying to analyse it. It is likely to be a combination of the Flash plugin, Compiz and the physical hardware, possibly one that hasn't been identified before, so to get some progress, it needs to be documented.

However, I believe my point still stands: for all the work done to maximise compatibility, there are always going to be machines that don't play for less obvious reasons, especially at the low cost end of the market, and the rule still should be that if you want to use a Linux desktop of any kind do a little bit of homework. There is the official compatibility wiki but if you get the model number of any laptop and put it into Google, someone will have attempted to run Linux on it and reported on it.

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Just to update everyone flash blocker didn't manage 5 minutes before both Firefox and system monitor greyed out simply because I tried to close the monitor. As I'm typing this email Thunderbird keeps greying out and the text appears on the screen up to 45 seconds after I typed it. (So apologies for any spelling mistakes.) Rhythmbox is playing, well stuttering. That seems to be the biggest problem, I have noticed flash can be a drain but any media playing and it greatly increases the chance that the system will halt.
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