On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:53 AM, SW Wootton <wootton....@gmail.com> wrote: > > Good Morning. > I am quite new to ubuntu being an emigre from SuSe. Just thought I > should make a comment on your email. It would appear to me that in > view of the response to the issue of a change in the logo it should > certainly not be changed. I am certain there are more important issues > to be considered. > > Regards > SW
Its one of the few ways that those who don't have the skills, experience or time to be contributing to code, documentation, bug fixing etc. Can make a contribution. I use openSUSE alongside my Ubuntu, and things like this are IMHO part of the reason why Ubuntu succeeds where openSUSE fails. No matter how small or unimportant the subject, the community is involved and on the whole, with a few notable exceptions, the decisions are community driven. > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 Mark Shutleworth wrote: > > We all make Ubuntu, but we do not all make all of it. In other words, we > delegate well. > We have a kernel team, and they make kernel decisions. You don't get to make > kernel > decisions unless you're in that kernel team. You can file bugs and comment, > and > engage, but you don't get to second-guess their decisions. We have a security > team. > They get to make decisions about security. You don't get to see a lot of what > they see > unless you're on that team. We have processes to help make sure we're doing a > good job > of delegation, but being an open community is not the same as saying > everybody has a > say in everything. > > This is a difference between Ubuntu and several other community > distributions. It may > feel less democratic, but it's more meritocratic, and most importantly it > means (a) we > should have the best people making any given decision, and (b) it's worth > investing your > time to become the best person to make certain decisions, because you should > have > that competence recognised and rewarded with the freedom to make hard > decisions and > not get second-guessed all the time. The community most definitely exists in openSUSE and is very vocal. The mailing lists are full of users who are not entirely satisfied with the direction of just about any given project, and there appears to be very few people defending or justifying or even notifying of any decisions being made. Or perhaps theres too much community input and the distro is trying too hard to be everything for everyone, I don't know, I haven't been with it long enough to figure out what's going on yet, there just seems to be a lot of unhappy people in the openSUSE camp. I've unsubscribed from all the openSUSE lists just to get away from the constant moaning and little positive action that appears in my inbox every time I open it. The logo most definitely should be changed to provide a visually consistent look and coherence between Ubuntu and Ubuntu-UK. It needs to be clear to anyone encountering the Ubuntu-UK logo that Ubuntu-UK is directly involved with Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
