Laura Czajkowski wrote: > Aloha, > > I'm in the Ubuntu-uk channel always and I love the channel and find for most > of the time it to be a very enjoyable place to hang out, chat to people and > get help. However, when it comes to your IRC meetings, it's like the cages > are unleashed and politeness and manners that I see everyday in your channel > vanish. > > Firstly, if someone is explaining a topic, please have the manners and > decency to let them finish explaining what they are trying to tell you. I > know it may be hard to tell when they finish, but it makes it harder to get > to the point if you keep interjecting. Perhaps the person explaining can say > FINISH at the end of their topic information. > > Secondly, if the topic has been finished and you feel you're not finished > talking about it, but the chair has moved the topic on. PLEASE understand > it's not helpful to continue the discussion, take it to the mailing list or > bring it up on AOB. > > Finally, I think the -uk folks would benefit from a set chair. Mez did a > great job and I'm sure Djones will also. But to give the chair experience > and confidence in telling folks to quite frankly shut up and stop > interrupting, I think it would be beneficial to have a permanent chair. > Still rotate it, but perhaps on a 3 month rotation. > > Just my 2 cents. > > Laura > <SNIP>
Hi Laura, Thank you for raising your thoughts. I entirely agree that the most recent meeting was a little bit of a shamble. Traditionally meeting's haven't been like this, and the recent one was an example of the issues you have raised. We are now getting back into the swing of having meetings following a long hiatus, so some teething issues are expected. Raising concerns and suggestions like this is entirely the best way to improve them, rather than tagging them within the meeting. I feel some of the social issues of the last meeting is related to some recent disagreement on topics that should not be discussed in the channel, or even the #*ubuntu* channel namespace. I'm not sure i agree with the "FINISH" proposal. In my opinion, the issue of finishing a point is often caused when a new topic is being raised and the person who added it to the agenda is explaining it. I do not feel it's unreasonable to expect that person to already have the introduction to their point ready for a copy and paste moment. This could, but doesn't need to span multiple lines, and ensures the full issue is conveyed without interruption and the direction of the point being lost being it is conveyed. In many instances, the chair should be aware they are empowered to keep the discussion on track. One thing that needs to be improved is keeping it punctual. Keeping the meeting snappy, and covering as much as possible. I would encourage a reasonably hard limit of 1 hour per meeting, and if the meeting requires more time - either continuing on the mailing list or scheduling a meeting sooner than normal. It was actually my idea to have different chairs for the meeting, I thought it would be an excellent way for members of the LoCo to contribute in the organisation of the team - and I still believe this to be the case. I feel at the end of each meeting, people should nominate themselves or proposed and the people attending the meeting decide who to chair the following meeting. Kind Regards, Dave Walker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
