>----Original Message---- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: 12/03/2008 12:00 >To: <ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> >Subj: ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 35, Issue 27 > >Send ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >Any possible help requested. I have been a windows user (no hoper) for ten years+ I started when it didnt have version numbers. My Ubuntu (Gutsy) takes 15 minutes to boot with hundreds of errors and "not fixing automatically" messages.
Where should I go for help. is there a Ubuntu for windows users help file? Keith R. Armstrong-Bridges. CITP. MBCS >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu. com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-uk digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [Marketing] How to increase OSS Exposure (Chris Rowson) > 2. Re: Ubuntu Demo Day (Rob Beard) > 3. Re: Upgrade to Hardy: Fail! (James Westby) > 4. Re: Ubuntu Demo Day (Dianne Reuby) > 5. Re: If you had a wiki, which wiki would you wiki with? > (Dave Murphy) > 6. Re: Ubuntu Demo Day (Rob Beard) > 7. Re: Upgrade to Hardy: Fail! (Stephen Garton) > 8. Re: Music to your ears, something new for the UK (Alistair Crust) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:55:56 +0000 >From: "Chris Rowson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> >Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Marketing] How to increase OSS Exposure >To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu.com> >Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >I think that marketing Ubuntu and FOSS together mightn't always be the >best way to move forward. > >I've written about this before, and I know it's an unpopular view, but >sometimes I think that people who might be interested in Ubuntu might >be a bit put off by open source evangelism. > >Sometimes I think we have to pick our battles. It might be a case of >getting someone into Ubuntu first, then getting them into the concepts >of FOSS once they have taken 'the bait' of Ubuntu. > >Chris > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:59:44 +0000 >From: Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Demo Day >To: British Ubuntu Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Dianne Reuby wrote: >> Just to confirm the demo day is set for April 26, from 10 til 4. The >> website has been a severe pain in the posterior for ages, and the newish >> CMS just don't want to work right! It's embarrassing for a computer >> museum, but there it is. If anyone wants the alternative activities >> sheet for partners and families, do email me direct and I'll send it out >> as we can't seem to add to the site at the moment. >> >> >> Dianne Reuby >> Collections Manager >> Museum of Computing @ Swindon >> http://www.museum-of-computing.org.uk > >Hi Dianne, > >I'm going to mention the Ubuntu Demo Day in our local LUG mailing list. > I just wondered how close the University is to Swindon Railway Station? > >What I'm thinking is First Great Western are advertising cheap advanced >tickets for rail travel, and since I got completely lost on the way back >from the Challenge Santa day (stupid Sat Nav, even more stupid driver!), >I figured a train might be the easy option (and it saves a few of us >DCLugers driving up in 2 or 3 cars or getting a mini-bus). > >Rob > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:11:24 +0000 >From: James Westby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Hardy: Fail! >To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain > >On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 20:45 +0000, Stephen Garton wrote: >> Evening all, >> >> I wanted to help log bugs etc in Hardy, but have hit a bit of a snag- >> I can't do anything apart from boot into recovery mode from grub! If I >> choose(or let grub choose) the default kernel, I get nothing. >> >> I can manually start up eth0 from the recovery console, is there any >> way I can downgrade to gutsy from the command line? > >Hi, > >Thanks for trying to help. I'm sorry it's not going well for you >so far. > >The error messages that you get before being dropped in to the shell >would help us to diagnose the problem and try and fix it. Can you >transcribe at least the last few lines in to an email? > >Also, it may be a kernel issue, do you have other kernels still >available in the grub menu? > >Thanks, > >James > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:21:43 +0000 >From: Dianne Reuby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Demo Day >To: British Ubuntu Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] desktop> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >Hi Rob, > >The Uni is about 20 minutes by bus - the main departure/arrival point is >about a 5 minute walk from the station. Our buses don't give change, so >you need the exact fare - adult single is ?1, return ?1.90 to Oakfield >Campus. > >There are always taxis at the station - I think the fare is about ?5, >but I can check on that for you if you want. > >Let me know if you need more details, > >Dianne > > >On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 21:59 +0000, Rob Beard wrote: >> Dianne Reuby wrote: >> > Just to confirm the demo day is set for April 26, from 10 til 4. The >> > website has been a severe pain in the posterior for ages, and the newish >> > CMS just don't want to work right! It's embarrassing for a computer >> > museum, but there it is. If anyone wants the alternative activities >> > sheet for partners and families, do email me direct and I'll send it out >> > as we can't seem to add to the site at the moment. >> > >> > >> > Dianne Reuby >> > Collections Manager >> > Museum of Computing @ Swindon >> > http://www.museum-of-computing.org.uk >> >> Hi Dianne, >> >> I'm going to mention the Ubuntu Demo Day in our local LUG mailing list. >> I just wondered how close the University is to Swindon Railway Station? >> >> What I'm thinking is First Great Western are advertising cheap advanced >> tickets for rail travel, and since I got completely lost on the way back >> from the Challenge Santa day (stupid Sat Nav, even more stupid driver!), >> I figured a train might be the easy option (and it saves a few of us >> DCLugers driving up in 2 or 3 cars or getting a mini-bus). >> >> Rob >> >> > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:35:09 +0000 >From: Dave Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] If you had a wiki, which wiki would you wiki > with? >To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:17:35 +0000 >Dave Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I ended going with DokuWiki. Not 100% happy with it, but it installed >> a helluva lot easier than Moin! > >I doubt anyone will care, but I've now switched to Moin. I actually >prefer the features of DokuWiki, but the vast majority of wikis I >interact with use Moin, so having a common syntax is much easier. >-- >Dave Murphy - http://schwuk.com >Get in touch - http://schwuk.com/contact > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:48:41 +0000 >From: Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Demo Day >To: British Ubuntu Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > >Dianne Reuby wrote: >> Hi Rob, >> >> The Uni is about 20 minutes by bus - the main departure/arrival point is >> about a 5 minute walk from the station. Our buses don't give change, so >> you need the exact fare - adult single is ?1, return ?1.90 to Oakfield >> Campus. >> >> There are always taxis at the station - I think the fare is about ?5, >> but I can check on that for you if you want. >> >> Let me know if you need more details, >> >> Dianne >> >> >> On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 21:59 +0000, Rob Beard wrote: >>> Dianne Reuby wrote: >>>> Just to confirm the demo day is set for April 26, from 10 til 4. The >>>> website has been a severe pain in the posterior for ages, and the newish >>>> CMS just don't want to work right! It's embarrassing for a computer >>>> museum, but there it is. If anyone wants the alternative activities >>>> sheet for partners and families, do email me direct and I'll send it out >>>> as we can't seem to add to the site at the moment. >>>> >>>> >>>> Dianne Reuby >>>> Collections Manager >>>> Museum of Computing @ Swindon >>>> http://www.museum-of-computing.org.uk > > >Okay thanks Dianne, > >I think I'll check about a mini-bus too if there's enough interest in >our local LUG. > >Rob > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:11:46 +0000 >From: "Stephen Garton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> >Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade to Hardy: Fail! >To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ubuntu.com> >Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Morning all, > >On 11/03/2008, James Westby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> The error messages that you get before being dropped in to the shell >> would help us to diagnose the problem and try and fix it. Can you >> transcribe at least the last few lines in to an email? >> >I'm not getting any error messages, as far as I can tell. If I choose >a 'normal' kernal in Grub, I just get a black screen. Selecting a >recovery mode takes me to a root recovery shell. When typing 'exit' >into the shell (a command which would normally continue the boot >process in my experience) I get the same black screen. > >> Also, it may be a kernel issue, do you have other kernels still >> available in the grub menu? > >I do have other kernels, but have the same problems with all. > >Rob Beard Wrote: >>Does it get as far as the login screen? > >It didn't... (see below for updated progress) > >>I had a bit of an issue with an ATI video card on Ubuntu 7.10 where it >>tried to put the monitor in a resolution that wasn't supported by my >>monitor. > >It a laptop with integrated Intel card. > >>Just a thought too, you could always try re- configuring X with the command: >>X -configure > >Update- I had tried to sort with dpkg- reconfigure xserver-xorg from >the recovery console (not heard of x-configure before) so I reverted >to a backup of xorg.conf from before upgrading. I can now get to GDM. >It also seems it was not mounting my /home partition on boot, so I >have now editing /etc/fstab by hand from UUID=blahblah back to 'the >way it used to be back in the day' i.e. /dev/sda2. /home now gets >mounted. > >However, once I get to grub, the touchpad (or USB mouse if plugged in) >doesn't respond, and after typing in my user name and password, >nothing happens after the boxes are greyed out. > >I think I've junked it, but would still like to try to downgrade if it >is possible. Things are backed up, and /home is on a separate >partition anyway. > >Help still appreciated, >-- >Steve Garton >http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 8 >Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:10:11 +0000 >From: Alistair Crust <[EMAIL PROTECTED] org> >Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Music to your ears, something new for the UK >To: British Ubuntu Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> >Message-ID: <1205320211.29814.46. [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain > >On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 19:03 +0000, alan c wrote: >> Alan Pope wrote: >> [...] >> >> I really like the idea of a Ubuntu-UK podcast, I cannot listen to it >> yet and am looking forward to it. >> >> The main issue here seems to be one of people identifying with >> Ubuntu-UK yet feeling alienated from a UK branded, creative, event. In >> saying this I emphasise that this does not mean I believe that they >> either were, or were not, alienated. >> >> > In my opinion we had a common consensus "Ubuntu-UK should make a podcast". >> >> I have no problem with this, I did not follow its discussion anyway. I >> am also ok if a bunch of people who want to, and who can, actually get >> to do it and do not wait for greater authority, other comments, whatever. >> >> However, there might have been advantage in a pre publication 'press >> release' say, when more than half way through the process. If >> resources were available, a few Q&A and comments. This would have >> enabled some others to identify with the activity rather than later >> being taken unawares. Pre-pub press release or similar with the >> intention to inform is useful in a dispersed group to assist in >> cohesion. Such a press release does not invite creative feeback or >> review, just informs of actions and impending events. This can >> strengthen the self confidence of the wider team. >> >> Surprises are almost always of negative effect and if they can avoided >> all the better. If the surprise is intentional, (hopefully not), then >> the motives need review I suggest. >> >> I look forward to more podcasts. FWIW the only podcast I (previously) >> listened to is the linux action show. >> -- >> alan cocks >> Kubuntu user#10391 >> > >Motives and politics aside the whole "surprise" thing and the posts by >Chris Rowson (and subsequent discussion) have (and slightly counter >intuitively some may say) actually been constructive and helped. My >reasoning is this: > >What are we all talking about now.... Ubuntu-UK podcast!, that's what. >That in itself has raised awareness of its existence and can only be a >good thing in my opinion. > >Secondly Chris's posts, the discussion that has evolved and the issue of >inclusion and open discussion of the project. This has, as I see it, had >an affect that people who may not have expressed opinion are feeling >compelled to write posts (I include myself in this being a rather quiet >member of late), give praise, comments, suggestions etc etc... aka "Get >Involved". This too can only be a good thing in my opinion and would not >have happened without "the surprise" triggering his posts. > >At this point though I would like to make an analogy. if you follow what >is meant then great, if you don't then congratulations you've just seen >an insight into my very odd mind. > >Alcohol.. drink just a little can be a good thing, carry on drinking and >people do stupid things and/or pass-out (amongst other things). As I see >it it's the same with complaining about things past! So I call to put >complaining aside and concentrate on the walk back home to the nice warm >bed. > >I believe no harm is done, the project has been realised AND people have >been told about it an asked for comments, sugestions... to help. > >I would like to point out though in Chris's defence had that not >happened (the project remaining closed for assistance) then I think he >would have had a fully valid point. That however "didn't" happen so is a >mute point in this instance. > >So now the project is running and "open" lets move to helping out "now" >rather than spending our efforts debating the finer points of "then". I >plan on doing my bit by promoting the podcast within our school and >possibly getting the kids to do reviews and suggestions. > > >Kind regards >-- >Alistair Crust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Systems Administrator >Skegness Grammar School >Vernon Road >Skegness >Lincs >PE252QS >Tel: 01754610000 > > > > >------------------------------ > >-- >ubuntu-uk mailing list >ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu. com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > >End of ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 35, Issue 27 >***************************************** > __________________________________________________ Recycle old mobile phones and get paid up to £150 - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/recycle/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
