First of all the phone would have to work correctly. How are You expected to 
sell a phone where bluetooth doesn't work and which has problems with stupid 
sms sound notification? The ?memory? management isn't any better. Every few 
days I have to reboot cause no app wants to open.
Ubuntu Edge? It wouldn't fail if the campaign was started and ran correctly. If 
someone thought a little bit how a human beign thinks like. There were for sure 
many more thousand people LIKE ME who would give You these 500$. I really 
would. Why I wouldn't? Why so many people didn't? You could read it in Facebook 
comments and it was NOT a big problem. Ubuntu Edge really could succeed. All 
You developers forget that You work and create stuff for people. It's not just 
another soft-update for a robot in a VW factory. You just change something or 
start a campaign without smallest psycho-market skills that would give You a 
chance to succeed. If I wanted to change from GNOME2 to Unity I wouldn't give a 
smallest chance to lose users that switch to MATE etc. It is only a little bit 
of psychology and understanding the other human beign (not to be confused with 
the true meaning of the >Ubuntu< word:-( ).

Cheers
Marcin, well known GTrider


      From: Ari Börde Kröyer <ari.kro...@online.no>
 To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net 
 Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 11:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Canonical branded phone?
   
 Hi, I am glad to see a bit of discussion on this subject. Canonical did try to 
launch production of a phone on it's own with the Ubuntu Edge. But they are not 
the only ones who have tried to gather interest for this idea. When the crowd 
funding campaign for the Ubuntu Edge was launched, I believe Ubuntu/Canonical 
had the "edge" on the competition (if you'll excuse the pun). However, 
development has taken time, and the others have launched different variants of 
the idea. A couple of minutes of poking around the web today and I found 
Nexdock, Casetop Dock and Superbook. Then, of course, there is Microsoft's 
Continuum for Phones. So where does this leave the Ubuntu phone venture? I am 
seriously worried that before something lands properly, others will have 
flooded the market with similar products. 
  I really wish the Ubuntu phone the success it deserves, but at the moment, I 
have to admit the future looks a bit bleak. Maybe, we are just being kept a bit 
in the dark at the moment, and something is in store? Lets hope so! If I had 
had the programming skills, I would have contributed more. As it is, my 
contribution is mainly a bit of translating, unfortunately, but that's 
something at any rate. I applaud all who are contributing to the further 
development of Ubuntu Touch and the convergence concept and I wish you the best 
of success. I look forward to some news about what we can expect in the near 
future!
  Regards, Ari
  
  Den 05. sep. 2016 19:24, skrev Ivo Fernandes:
  
 Hi,
 
 I think canonical isn't searching oem's to sell ubuntu phones. I bet in the 
opposite... oem's are trying to convince canonical to sell ubuntu phones. For 
the moment, more work has to be done. UT isn't taking full advance of the 
capabilities of the current devices. But I agree that more devices Meizu MX4, 
Pro 5, M10,  e4.5 should be in stock. 
 
 This journey was explained in a Q.A session. First will be a very limited 
range of devices, then a second round.
 
 I bet next year that second round will begin. 
 On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Krzysztof Tataradziński <ktatar...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 2016-09-05 17:16 GMT+02:00 Oliver Grawert <o...@ubuntu.com>:
 
hi,
 Am Montag, den 05.09.2016, 16:49 +0200 schrieb Krzysztof Tataradziński:
 
 > Did anyone from Canonical considered to 'simply' develop phone 
 > themselves alone, order it in factory and sell with Canonical brand?
 
 yes, it was called "Ubuntu Edge" and failed teh crowdfunding
 campaign...
 
 
 That was some time ago. Market changed, smartphones (low/mid) are cheaper. We 
don't need super-high-end phone. We need a phone that can be bought all the 
time (for now, we can't buy any phone (except second hand, etc.).
 And the most important thing - Canonical now have a lot more knowledge about 
phones than before. Maybe now some costs can be lower? In example OS is more 
completed (so software part should be cheaper) than few years ago.
 
  Crowdfunding campaign ver. 2? ;)
  
  Best regards,
  Krzysztof Tataradziński
    
 ciao
         oli
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