I suspect that supporting Ubuntu on Nexus devices is likely the best path in the short-term.
Though, having said that, it appears that vanilla AOSP doesn't even work on 5X and 6P anymore: https://twitter.com/CopperheadOS/status/772592323112869888 On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mitchell Reese <d...@curiouslegends.com.au> wrote: > > > On Thursday, 8 September 2016 4:47:42 AM AEST, Bob Summerwill < > b...@summerwill.net> wrote: > >> Are OEMs not queuing up to ship devices running Touch? >>>> >>> >> I suspect that the answer to that is "no". >> >> If, as seems likely, both BQ and Meizu have no immediate plans to ship >> further Ubuntu Touch devices then that likely means that it is not >> economically beneficial to them to do so. That certainly isn't an >> appealing market for other OEMs to join. Canonical would likely be >> pouring their money down the drain with such a device. >> >> Mozilla went through a very similar journey with Firefox OS, though with >> way more devices and way more traction. They ended up giving up on the >> device side, and focusing on just community ports, and on application of >> the OS to new (non-mobile) markets. >> >> Mobile is a tough, tough market to compete with. Commodity Android >> devices are very, very compelling to the mass market. Mobile Linux is a >> really niche. See the troubles Jolla have experienced too. Even >> Samsung are struggling to make any kind of impact with Tizen - though that >> likely has more to do with their own internal politics than any lack of >> resourcing or ability to sell large volumes. >> >> My personal feeling is that mobile is now "mature", and uninteresting, >> like >> the PC market. Who really cares if you have an ASUS or an Acer or a HP >> or >> whatever. They have razor-thin markets and little differentiation. I >> think that is where mobile is getting to be, with Android as the Windows, >> and iOS as the Mac. So iOS is premium and profitable, "because Apple", >> but Android is the de-facto standard, commodity and unprofitable. That >> is a really unappealing place to try to build a third platform. >> >> Android has utterly skewed manufacturing too, to my understanding, so that >> if you want to get a SoC now, you are going to get Android bootloaders and >> drivers on it. As blobs. And you're just going to have to suck that >> up. >> Want X11 drivers? No way. >> >> Tizen is the only mobile Linux which hasn't just made the pragmatic choice >> of avoiding the issue by using Hybris. For everybody else, Android has >> become the de-facto HAL :-) >> >> So yeah... I have an MX5 Pro as my daily driver and love it. MX4 before >> that. But I don't have much hope of any future Ubuntu Touch mobile >> devices. I think we're likely walking dead, but just haven't stopped >> walking yet. >> >> So maybe Jolla and Tizen are the "last men standing" in this space? For >> mobile profile, at least. Tablets are a different story. Ditto IoT >> and >> Ubuntu Snappy Core. >> >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:49 AM, mark <j.m.hol...@me.com> wrote: >> >> +1 >>> >>> The same thought had crossed my mind. Touch seems to be reaching the >>> point >>> of maturity where something of the Edge's specs might come to fruition. >>> It >>> would be a winner, imho. >>> >>> Are OEMs not queuing up to ship devices running Touch? >>> >>> m >>> >>> On 07/09/16 14:32, Art wrote: >>> >>> Question....... >>> >>> I read all the comments, and I am now curious..... >>> >>> What is to stop Canonical from releasing their own branded phones right >>> now?? Just because the current 'offering' isn't Canonical branded, Is >>> there >>> anything that prevents them from selling a Canonical branded phone later >>> on?? >>> >>> After all, now we know that a linux based phone actually works, what is >>> to >>> stop Canonical (or even myself) from seeking out an independent phone >>> OEM, >>> buying them in bulk and rebranding them, complete with the linux software >>> already installed? >>> >>> Great list all, I hope to see the linux phone succeed! It's about time we >>> take back control of our own phones and block all the 'features' that rob >>> us of our privacy!! >>> >>> Art >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 09/05/2016 10:49 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Did anyone from Canonical considered to 'simply' develop phone themselves >>> alone, order it in factory and sell with Canonical brand? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >>> >> >> Hmmm. Disagree - thanfully. Otherwise, whats the point? Similar arguments > when Microsoft was still a thing - why compete? > > The thing about Ubuntu is it's also a desktop system - and has the > potential to be much more. Will be interesting to see where this goes, but > I'm backing Canonical. > M > > > -- > Sent using Dekko from my Ubuntu device > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- b...@summerwill.net
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