> > WINE has not been all that, that's because WINE is far worse than windows. > Without source, how can WINE defeat windows? If WINE is no better than > windows, why the windows users would shift to linux/WINE?
You realize that, at the end of the day, Dalvik is just a VM that runs Java bytecode? It's even worse, performance wise, than Wine. Wine is just a layer that does linking between Linux/Windows APIs, but wine programs are still native, whereas Dalvik has to interpret the bytecode, run it, garbage collect, and manage the memory. A windows/wine app does everything on its own. Zisu Andrei On 21 June 2013 09:55, Fola Dawodu <folabik...@gmail.com> wrote: > hey well > > if i have to cite examples, then you actually dont know what you are > talking about. > > YOU did cite BB10 OS as an example no? how is that working out? perhaps > you should buy a BB10 device and install android apps on it before forming > an opinion on why it makes sense to do that > > You proposed that Ubuntu Touch **IMPROVES** android to run better than it > does on android plaform itself? seriously? > > drop this please. start a blog and whine. *end of! > > > > On 21/06/2013 09:46, leon lee wrote: > > I'm sorry this bad idea bothers you so much, but it seems it would bother > you for a long long time. > You say you have had a few examples already, please name them and tell > us why they want to do that, and why they fail. > WINE has not been all that, that's because WINE is far worse than windows. > Without source, how can WINE defeat windows? If WINE is no better than > windows, why the windows users would shift to linux/WINE? > > ------------------ Original ------------------ > *From: * "Fola Dawodu"<folabik...@gmail.com> <folabik...@gmail.com>; > *Date: * Thu, Jun 20, 2013 11:00 PM > *To: * > "ubuntu-phone"<ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net><ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net>; > ** > *Subject: * Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Qt5 and touch performance issue > > this is not possible. > > and stop repeating this bad idea. if you need android apps so much, keep > an android device side by side with a touch device. > > Android apps have not made a competing platform better or successful, we > have had a few examples already. > > Its just as silly as mandating that the desktop supports windows apps > simply because there are lots of them. WINE has not been all that has it? > > > On 20/06/2013 15:53, leon lee wrote: > > When I say make android dvm available on touch, I mean keep the > performance of touch, and make dvm adapted to touch. It means that we will > change the framwork of android. this would be much helpful for touch's > marketing. > > ------------------ Original ------------------ > *From: * "Josh Leverette"<coder...@gmail.com> <coder...@gmail.com>; > *Date: * Thu, Jun 20, 2013 09:58 PM > *To: * "leon lee"<llr...@qq.com> <llr...@qq.com>; ** > *Cc: * > "ubuntu-phone"<ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net><ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net>; > ** > *Subject: * Re: [Ubuntu-phone]Qt5 and touch performance issue > > If you ever want the system to perform smoothly, then we must absolutely > never officially support running Android apps on Ubuntu. Additionally, it > would be a death sentence for Ubuntu touch. Adding Android app support > would crush any chance of Ubuntu ever having good apps. When companies see > that their Android app on Ubuntu is "good enough", they will never bother > to make an "excellent" version for Ubuntu. But when the only option is > excellence, mediocrity is not encouraged. Ubuntu will suffer at first > because of this decision, but it will be stronger in the long run as a > result. "Delayed > gratification"<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_gratification>is another > way to describe it. > > I agree that making the system smooth is very important, but they are > writing a new display server for Ubuntu touch. Until that is finished, most > time spent optimizing performance would be wasted. We must wait. > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:30 AM, leon lee <llr...@qq.com> wrote: > >> I still think the most important thing right now for touch is to have a >> reliable smoth system. For app, in the long term, we should make android >> dvm available on touch. So we can make use of all the android apps. >> >> >> ------------------ Original ------------------ >> *From: * "Josh Leverette"<coder...@gmail.com>; >> *Date: * Thu, Jun 20, 2013 09:45 AM >> *To: * "leon lee"<llr...@qq.com>; >> *Cc: * "ubuntu-phone"<ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net>; >> *Subject: * Re: [Ubuntu-phone]Qt5 and touch performance issue >> >> For now, features are most important. I hope that they will start >> fixing performance soon. The design is good. Performance should not be an >> issue. If it is, that would make me sad. I am confident that they will fix >> it. >> >> Sincerely, >> Josh >> On Jun 19, 2013 8:07 PM, "leon lee" <llr...@qq.com> wrote: >> >>> This would be the major issur of touch. Can we discuss more details? >>> Let's if there's something we can do. >>> >>> >>> ------------------ Original ------------------ >>> *From: * "Josh Leverette"<coder...@gmail.com>; >>> *Date: * Thu, Jun 20, 2013 03:05 AM >>> *To: * "leon lee"<llr...@qq.com>; >>> *Cc: * "ubuntu-phone"<ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net>; >>> *Subject: * Re: [Ubuntu-phone] how do you feel about touch >>> >>> It is based on Qt5, and Qt5 makes heavy use of GPU acceleration. Right >>> now there are a few performance issues, but I expect that Ubuntu will run >>> very smoothly once finished. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, leon <llr...@qq.com> wrote: >>> >>>> After know the ARCH of android, which is using java as the framework, >>>> I feel a little disappointed. That means that with the hardware, android >>>> won't be as smooth as IOS, which is on the native framework. >>>> From that day, I'm looking forward to a better android. At first, I'm >>>> thinking about the combination of android and meego, just like what touch >>>> does today. Luckly, I found touch, so I don't need to move a long way to >>>> get my goal. >>>> Since I don't have a working touch handset, I hope people using touch >>>> can share your feeling with me. Would it be faster and smoother with touch >>>> than android? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sincerely, >>> Josh >>> >> > > > -- > Sincerely, > Josh > > > > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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