hey well
if i have to cite examples, then you actually dont know what you are
talking about.
YOU did cite BB10 OS as an example no? how is that working out? perhaps
you should buy a BB10 device and install android apps on it before
forming an opinion on why it makes sense to do that
You proposed that Ubuntu Touch **IMPROVES** android to run better than
it does on android plaform itself? seriously?
drop this please. start a blog and whine. *end of!
On 21/06/2013 09:46, leon lee wrote:
I'm sorry this bad idea bothers you so much, but it seems it would
bother you for a long long time.
You say you have had a few examples already, please name them and tell
us why they want to do that, and why they fail.
WINE has not been all that, that's because WINE is far worse than
windows. Without source, how can WINE defeat windows? If WINE is no
better than windows, why the windows users would shift to linux/WINE?
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*From: * "Fola Dawodu"<folabik...@gmail.com>;
*Date: * Thu, Jun 20, 2013 11:00 PM
*To: * "ubuntu-phone"<ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net>;
*Subject: * Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Qt5 and touch performance issue
this is not possible.
and stop repeating this bad idea. if you need android apps so much,
keep an android device side by side with a touch device.
Android apps have not made a competing platform better or successful,
we have had a few examples already.
Its just as silly as mandating that the desktop supports windows apps
simply because there are lots of them. WINE has not been all that has it?
On 20/06/2013 15:53, leon lee wrote:
When I say make android dvm available on touch, I mean keep the
performance of touch, and make dvm adapted to touch. It means that we
will change the framwork of android. this would be much helpful for
touch's marketing.
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*From: * "Josh Leverette"<coder...@gmail.com>;
*Date: * Thu, Jun 20, 2013 09:58 PM
*To: * "leon lee"<llr...@qq.com>;
*Cc: * "ubuntu-phone"<ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net>;
*Subject: * Re: [Ubuntu-phone]Qt5 and touch performance issue
If you ever want the system to perform smoothly, then we must
absolutely never officially support running Android apps on Ubuntu.
Additionally, it would be a death sentence for Ubuntu touch. Adding
Android app support would crush any chance of Ubuntu ever having good
apps. When companies see that their Android app on Ubuntu is "good
enough", they will never bother to make an "excellent" version for
Ubuntu. But when the only option is excellence, mediocrity is not
encouraged. Ubuntu will suffer at first because of this decision, but
it will be stronger in the long run as a result. "Delayed
gratification" <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_gratification>
is another way to describe it.
I agree that making the system smooth is very important, but they are
writing a new display server for Ubuntu touch. Until that is
finished, most time spent optimizing performance would be wasted. We
must wait.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:30 AM, leon lee <llr...@qq.com
<mailto:llr...@qq.com>> wrote:
I still think the most important thing right now for touch is to
have a reliable smoth system. For app, in the long term, we
should make android dvm available on touch. So we can make use of
all the android apps.
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*From: * "Josh Leverette"<coder...@gmail.com
<mailto:coder...@gmail.com>>;
*Date: * Thu, Jun 20, 2013 09:45 AM
*To: * "leon lee"<llr...@qq.com <mailto:llr...@qq.com>>;
*Cc: * "ubuntu-phone"<ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
<mailto:ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net>>;
*Subject: * Re: [Ubuntu-phone]Qt5 and touch performance issue
For now, features are most important. I hope that they will start
fixing performance soon. The design is good. Performance should
not be an issue. If it is, that would make me sad. I am confident
that they will fix it.
Sincerely,
Josh
On Jun 19, 2013 8:07 PM, "leon lee" <llr...@qq.com
<mailto:llr...@qq.com>> wrote:
This would be the major issur of touch. Can we discuss more
details? Let's if there's something we can do.
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*From: * "Josh Leverette"<coder...@gmail.com
<mailto:coder...@gmail.com>>;
*Date: * Thu, Jun 20, 2013 03:05 AM
*To: * "leon lee"<llr...@qq.com <mailto:llr...@qq.com>>;
*Cc: * "ubuntu-phone"<ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
<mailto:ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net>>;
*Subject: * Re: [Ubuntu-phone] how do you feel about touch
It is based on Qt5, and Qt5 makes heavy use of GPU
acceleration. Right now there are a few performance issues,
but I expect that Ubuntu will run very smoothly once finished.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM, leon <llr...@qq.com
<mailto:llr...@qq.com>> wrote:
After know the ARCH of android, which is using java as
the framework, I feel a little disappointed. That means
that with the hardware, android won't be as smooth as
IOS, which is on the native framework.
From that day, I'm looking forward to a better android.
At first, I'm thinking about the combination of android
and meego, just like what touch does today. Luckly, I
found touch, so I don't need to move a long way to get my
goal.
Since I don't have a working touch handset, I hope people
using touch can share your feeling with me. Would it be
faster and smoother with touch than android?
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