My personal opinion is that it's possible to find a solution which works for all situations, rather than creating fragmentation in the UI by letting individual dev's make too many choices.
> 1. Use the developer’s toolkit > > Here is our handy developer’s toolkit which contains all the essential > building blocks to > help you get started! We use our building blocks to keep our apps consistent, > and so we > don’t carry other platform’s UI elements or behaviours. > /\ http://design.ubuntu.com/apps/get-started/make-it-ubuntu I've just uploaded a short clip of the Evernote app on iOS, the way it handles the toolbar is beautifully intuitive and invisible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX1xelZhkEU Something like this Evernote example (default visible, hides on scroll/interaction, reveals on scroll up), which is _only_ implemented on deep page stack pages would be my suggestion. As far as I can see from the design spec, no other page types have this 'back' problem. See this link for the various page types > http://design.ubuntu.com/apps/global-patterns/navigation. Lou On 13 Jun 2013, at 18:18, Omar B. <estela...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Some apps don't have a problem with users going "back". For example the > *Friends* app shows both its Breadcrumbs and the bottom toolbar by default: > > http://youtu.be/Q566IGyVB0o?t=8m36s > > Apps should probably decide if they want to show these toolbars by default > (or when one goes deeper in the stack like others mentioned) if its better > for their users (and allow users to hide them if they want more screen). I > think this approach might be better than trying a "one fits all". > > Regards. > > > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:02:58 +0100 > > From: m...@canonical.com > > To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Scott May wrote on 12/06/13 12:33: > > > > > > Yeah I'm a "me too" on the concern that the "back" button is too > > > hidden given it's frequent use. Perhaps we won't need "back" so > > > much in this new environment? > > > > The System Settings design uses deep page stacks -- for example, five > > levels deep when setting a background picture. > > <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Appearance#Phone> > > > > Discoverability of "Back" is my biggest concern with System Settings > > right now. In a couple of cases I've specified that the toolbar should > > be visible all the time: for example, the screen for choosing an area > > of the background picture. But that's only because the toolbar > > contains other buttons on those particular screens. > > > > > In any case, with gestures we need to be very mindful of how apps > > > are going to operate. We don't want to offer a gesture that might > > > look anything like something you might do in reasonable use of some > > > app that doesn't exist on this platform yet. Think about about > > > what you do on the screen when say, using a map, drawing a picture, > > > moving a piece in a game etc, etc. I think gestures coming in from > > > the edge are fairly safe, but the main screen area is for the > > > app... > > > > > > ... > > > > A gesture might be more efficient than revealing the toolbar then > > tapping Back. But I doubt it would be more discoverable. > > > > - -- > > mpt > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAlG57TEACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecoGzwCgo4vTTmdYlcLHYGnl0LQz71HC > > eckAoI1i56T817vHSEfYS/WGBaHTkfV5 > > =s1ad > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -- > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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