It's true that load doesn't tell the whole story. Waiting for i/o will drive the load numbers up. You should see higher %wa for the cpu when there's a lot of waiting going on. It's possible to achieve high load numbers (in the 10-30 second range) with i/o bound processes utilizing very little cpu, for instance when syncing a raid-1 mirror.

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On 05/13/2012 09:42 AM, Nick Caldwell wrote:
Top didn't really show anything using the CPU all that much that I could
tell. Also my cpu fan didn't turn up to higher speeds, which normally
that load average for any more than a few minutes would at least kick it
up a notch or two. Right now it is sitting "idle" at 0.5 which I would
still consider higher than it should be, top showing mythfrontend and
mythbackend using 1% of the cpu and nothing else really anything. Isn't
the load average more than just cpu usage and can be impacted by io
waits and other factors? Maybe there isn't something sitting in the cpu
queue but instead waiting for some sort of io that is delayed, and would
also explain why the load is higher but my cpu is not hotter.


On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Eric Shubert
<e...@shubes.net
<mailto:e...@shubes.net>> wrote:

    After the update, was it perhaps building locate or man page
    indexes? Or maybe some other background activity?


    On 05/10/2012 08:35 PM, Nick Caldwell wrote:

        Actually it looks like the numbers are a bit lower than they
        were when I
        first installed, but still higher than I would think and idling
        machine
        should be at. I am running 3.2.0-24 kernel. When I first
        installed this
        version the load average was between .7 and .8, I have run Myth
        back to
        .22 I think? I don't remember them ever being that high just at
        idle.
        Today they are in the .3s. When I took this my box had only been
        up 3.5
        hours, it turns itself on right before I get home and shuts
        itself off
        late on work nights, so I generally don't have it up for more than 3
        days at a time over a weekend.

          From /proc/cpuinfo:
        vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
        cpu family      : 15
        model           : 35
        model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+
        stepping        : 2


        Inline image 1


        On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Cliff Dunn
        <alld...@gmail.com
        <mailto:alld...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:alld...@gmail.com
        <mailto:alld...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

            I don't know if my top screenshot came through on my last
        email, but
            I am attaching it again if not.  It appears that Mythfrontend is
            using the majority of the cpu.  I haven't actually tried killing
            that process yet to see if the load comes down to something
        I would
            expect.  I would definitely be interested in your numbers.
          And like
            you I have dual HD ATSC tuners on my backend/frontend combo.
          I have
            noticed the load up to and above 2.00 since the upgrade on that
            machine during recording/watching TV.  The machine seems to
            definitely be keeping up but I am obviously nearing my
        threshold on
            my dual core proc.  Seems like such unnecessary high utilization
            when I was seeing things so low before the upgrades.


            On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Nick Caldwell
        <kg6...@gmail.com
        <mailto:kg6...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:kg6...@gmail.com
        <mailto:kg6...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

                I did the upgrade about two weeks ago and noticed the same
                thing. I did a clean install of Mythbuntu 12.04, my load
        average
                was pretty low, 0.10s or something (in previous
        versions) when
                it was doing nothing and now it sits around 0.8 to 1.0 when
                doing nothing. I have dual hdtv inputs and it still
        seems to be
                able to keep up recording on both and playing back a
        recording
                while running mythcomflag, so I haven't really concerned
        myself
                with it. Also my cpu fan does not turn on to higher
        speeds even
                though typically it would, so I presumed the load number
        is just
                wrong, and not that the load is really that high. If I
        look at
                top or iotop they are sitting pretty idle as well.

                I also have an AMD CPU, I forget which exact one but I
        can send
                my system info once I get home if it helps. I presume
        this to be
                an ubuntu problem though.

                Nick

                On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Cliff Dunn
        <alld...@gmail.com
        <mailto:alld...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:alld...@gmail.com
        <mailto:alld...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

                    I have noticed that after I updated from Mythbuntu
        11.10 and
                    MythTV 0.24 to 12.04/0.25 that my load averages are much
                    higher. I am running AMD Athlon X2 260 processor.
        Before the
                    upgrade, with Mythfrontend idle, I would see a load
        average
                    of no more than 0.05. Now I am seeing the below
        average when
                    idle with much higher loads when actually watching
                    something. I am curious if you guys have noticed
        anything
                    similar?

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