Hi all, Wether joining REVU and Debian Mentors is a good idea or not, I can't say. However, I can tell you that I don't like the "everything through mail" approach debian has. When I'm getting help on packaging, I like the fact that IRC and REVU are in sync: if somebody says he/she posted a comment via IRC, it's there. I think this speed of comments is an important feature or REVU for eager new package developers.
I hope that the next iteration of REVU will be moving from REVU to Launchpad and handle the debian/ parts of packages through bazaar, but that might be way to advanced for now. My 2c. Bram On 7/30/07, Jordan Mantha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/29/07, Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was recently subscribed to the debian-mentors mail list (working on > > getting > > a package uploaded to Debian) and discovered that the author of the Debian > > Mentors system is getting ready to overhaul that system. > > > > That got me thinking... > > > > Why do REVU an mentors need to be separate? > > A couple thoughts: > 1. For a new Ubuntu contributor Debian can be a quite intimidating. > I remember being quite confused trying to figure out *both* Ubuntu and > Debian while doing my first package from scratch. Of course this is > also a big reason to "combine forces" between REVU and debian-mentors, > *if* it can be pulled off. > 2. There are social differences between Ubuntu and Debian as well as > just the technical ones. It's sometimes easier to maintain our own > system. We'd need to get by-in from DDs and the current debian-mentors > maintainers. For instance, who should be allowed to review/sponsor? > Most MOTUs are not DDs and vice-versa so I can imagine there would be > quite a bit we'd need to work out. > > > Except for versioning and release, with minor exceptions (like the freeness > > of > > GFDL) packages can be made identical for both Debian and Ubuntu. > > There is also the issue of native Ubuntu packages. I imagine Debian > isn't much interested in Ubuntu-specific stuff so we still need to > deal with those. > > > I could see up pooling resources on reviewing new packages and if a MOTU > > thought a package was ready to upload, then they could upload it and if a DD > > thought a package was ready, they could sponsor it. We'd have to deal with > > version/release, but I'd imagine it could be programmed in. > > This is a really interesting suggestion, in fact I don't know why it > hasn't been suggested before. Perhaps because it would take a large > amount of Debian/Ubuntu cooperation and we tend to separate packages > into Debian packages and Ubuntu packages. It also seems to me that > quite a number of contributors to REVU don't really want to deal with > Debian, as it is more work for a distro they don't use. > > I personally tend to think that with our resources we are better off > really encouraging people to put their packages through Debian unless > it is Ubuntu-specific. I found debian-mentors to be very helpful and > getting a package into Debian fairly easy, once I figured out how > things worked. I think working on "How does an Ubuntu user/contributor > get their package into Debian?" would benefit MOTU/Universe. Also > figuring out how to get Debian to "take on" packages created by Ubuntu > users. I know several cases where a contributor wanted to get the > package into Ubuntu rather than Debian because they didn't want to be > the Debian maintainer. > > -Jordan > > -- > Ubuntu-motu mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu > -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu
