On 7/29/07, Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was recently subscribed to the debian-mentors mail list (working on getting > a package uploaded to Debian) and discovered that the author of the Debian > Mentors system is getting ready to overhaul that system. > > That got me thinking... > > Why do REVU an mentors need to be separate?
A couple thoughts: 1. For a new Ubuntu contributor Debian can be a quite intimidating. I remember being quite confused trying to figure out *both* Ubuntu and Debian while doing my first package from scratch. Of course this is also a big reason to "combine forces" between REVU and debian-mentors, *if* it can be pulled off. 2. There are social differences between Ubuntu and Debian as well as just the technical ones. It's sometimes easier to maintain our own system. We'd need to get by-in from DDs and the current debian-mentors maintainers. For instance, who should be allowed to review/sponsor? Most MOTUs are not DDs and vice-versa so I can imagine there would be quite a bit we'd need to work out. > Except for versioning and release, with minor exceptions (like the freeness of > GFDL) packages can be made identical for both Debian and Ubuntu. There is also the issue of native Ubuntu packages. I imagine Debian isn't much interested in Ubuntu-specific stuff so we still need to deal with those. > I could see up pooling resources on reviewing new packages and if a MOTU > thought a package was ready to upload, then they could upload it and if a DD > thought a package was ready, they could sponsor it. We'd have to deal with > version/release, but I'd imagine it could be programmed in. This is a really interesting suggestion, in fact I don't know why it hasn't been suggested before. Perhaps because it would take a large amount of Debian/Ubuntu cooperation and we tend to separate packages into Debian packages and Ubuntu packages. It also seems to me that quite a number of contributors to REVU don't really want to deal with Debian, as it is more work for a distro they don't use. I personally tend to think that with our resources we are better off really encouraging people to put their packages through Debian unless it is Ubuntu-specific. I found debian-mentors to be very helpful and getting a package into Debian fairly easy, once I figured out how things worked. I think working on "How does an Ubuntu user/contributor get their package into Debian?" would benefit MOTU/Universe. Also figuring out how to get Debian to "take on" packages created by Ubuntu users. I know several cases where a contributor wanted to get the package into Ubuntu rather than Debian because they didn't want to be the Debian maintainer. -Jordan -- Ubuntu-motu mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu
