-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Baer wrote: > Jenda, > > First let me say I know your heart is in right place and yes I agree a > Ubuntu sticker is a great idea, but this is not the way to get there. > > Issues > > > 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Shipping > > Many who go to this page will perceive this as a solicitation. Buy a > sticker, here's what they look like, and here is the price. Look at how > many are already sold. It's an attempt to make the process as transparent as possible. To show where the money goes. For example, Sara had the idea of rewarding contributors to the Ubuntu Magazine with case stickers for free (payed for by the eventual profit of the action) > 2. Use of Community Resources for personal gain > > If number 1 is Ok, then step back because Ubuntu will become the home > shopping network of the Internet. Free hosting and great tools, it > doesn't get any better than this. Where is this happening? Aren't we all using Ubuntu for our personal work - and thus gain? And isn't that a community resource as well? And there's only a limited demand (or 'market') for ubuntu promotion materials. Remember, this is intended for materials people couldn't get otherwise. If the you, or anyone else figures out a better way of supplying printed material to the community, preferably without weighing Canonical down any more, I will desist without a word. > My views ... > > 1. It's not worth it, why risk it. Do not let this be the reason folks > question your intent. Are you in it for the community, or are you in it > for yourself. All of us contribute our time and talent to the Ubuntu > community without compensation why is this the exception. My batch of stickers is a proof of concept. I want to see if it is possible to do this as a free service to the community and _not_ lose the invested money. As of now, point not proven. I will go through this first batch either way, because the stickers are in the prints and I need to get the money back. > > 2. Conflict of interest. If I wanted to sell Ubuntu branded merchandise > I would respectfully leave the Ubuntu community in order to protect it > from any mistakes I might make. On my own I am free to do whatever I > desire. Definitely not. It's not like I want to make a living on it - it's like I want it to be available, which it just i-s-n-'-t now. I see no reason not to fulfill both purposes at once. > > 3. Give the team a chance. We will work through this and come up with a > plan that works for everyone. That would be great. Consider this my first version of the plan. Please do expand on it and reform it. > > The bottom line, I am really uncomfortable with this and if this is the > definition of "marketing team" I know I can contribute in other areas. I believe the marketing team doesn't really have a hand in this - it should only inform about the resources available. How else would a person who wants that stuff printed but can't himself get his hands on the material? Which place is more logical to look for these offers than the site where you can download the source files? BTW, I'd only endorse through SU the material that is hosted there in source files, as in "please do print it yourself, but if you can't, we can do it for you, you pay the expenses, though."
Jenda -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEupCmkfxlW1GdBWoRAqgWAKDILDVxicbHYASBalkPpyj2I3eIYQCgxrKq yGfQZE5f3xLTmiAeR2m+Y9E= =ZLLy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
