Xenial Xerus in complete gnome mode works well enough that 17.10 can just
be bypassed until 18.XX. Unity seems to me to be a courting dance to lure
in more Windows users.

Everything I do in genetics research through preparing papers on herp
trematodes runs gnome components, and I miss Apple and Microsoft,
admittedly great software suites in most respects, not a bit.

Denny Hugg

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 7:34 PM, Jeremy Bicha <jbi...@ubuntu.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Narcis Garcia <informat...@actiu.net>
> wrote:
> > Why Ubuntu Gnome project abandoned main principle to be «mostly pure
> > GNOME desktop experience» and then the project abandoned project itself?
> >
> > I think an Ubuntu GNOME (real) flavour has fully sense today, and it
> > seems even easier to maintain.
>
> Thank you for your comments. We probably should have put out a blog
> post to explain things a bit more when 17.10 was released, but here's
> a draft of what that would say…
>
> If there was a separate Ubuntu GNOME, then it would be much easier for
> mainline Ubuntu to drift further and further away from GNOME. We have
> merged our efforts to help "keep them honest", to push for Ubuntu to
> stick closely with GNOME.
>
> Ubuntu 17.10 diverges from stock GNOME in a few ways: a different
> theme, a Dock by default, and preserving legacy status icons through
> the App Indicator extension. Each of those choices are very popular.
> Recognizing that the theme's implementation isn't as good as it could
> be, community designers are working with Canonical on a theme refresh
> this year.
>
> There is one other divergence: Ubuntu has made some different app
> choices than Ubuntu GNOME did. I think it's worth mentioning that even
> Fedora includes Firefox, Rhythmbox and Shotwell by default instead of
> the GNOME alternatives. We could have a long conversation about why
> Ubuntu has the default apps it does, but in general it's a pretty good
> selection.
>
> It is extremely easy to get a default GNOME Shell by installing
> gnome-session  then reboot and pick GNOME from the gear menu after
> choosing your name on the login screen. If you prefer the app
> selection and a few tweaks from the old Ubuntu GNOME, install
> vanilla-gnome-desktop  . [1]
>
> Ubuntu GNOME developers are continuing the same work we started over 5
> years ago. It is because of Ubuntu GNOME's efforts that it is so easy
> to run stock GNOME on Ubuntu. It is even better in 17.10 than in 17.04
> (a particular new feature are per-desktop overrides to allow users to
> get good defaults based on the desktop they log into).
>
> Just today, GNOME To Do was added to the default install for 18.04 and
> GNOME Characters replaced the older Character Map. [2] This week, we
> dropped downstream Unity anti-headerbar patches from 6 core GNOME
> apps. We are pushing our packaging work into Debian (which is now at a
> historically high level of synchronization). We are pushing bug fixes
> and improvements directly into GNOME.
>
> I believe Ubuntu GNOME's vision has always been about merging the most
> popular Linux desktop with the most popular Linux distribution. In my
> opinion, creating a separate distro/release now would only weaken what
> we've accomplished and what we can build together in the future.
>
>
> [1] ubuntu-gnome-desktop is now a transitional package depending on
> ubuntu-desktop and gnome-session to get most former Ubuntu GNOME users
> back to mainline Ubuntu so they can get a full 5 years support.
> [2] https://community.ubuntu.com/t/gnome-to-do-installed-by-default/3608
>
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Bicha
>
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