On 03-05-16 09:59, Tim wrote:
Yes but we half half a dozen core team members mostly team leaders who have
refused to use IRC (for years), yet have embraced slack. The invite
situation is crap, but there are ways around that (auto-invite scripts). I
think using IRC is less critical for the teams that don't really have
to interact with the rest of the Ubuntu Sphere. We can also potentially bridge
the two channels using a bot also. And at the end of the day if
it really takes of we can move to matterhost, so long as we can arrange hosting.
Hmm. Maybe bridging the two together would work, but I wouldn't use the
current existing channels for that (e.g. open new channels for the
integration so one can choose which one to join).
If you joined the list today, you would need to import the archives into your
email client, certainly possible with Thunderbird, no idea if its
possible with webmail like gmail. And clearly not obvious for someone who is
new to email lists!
Yup. Valid point. I don't care too much for 'directly accessible'
history though, if I need something, a web search often also indexes
these historical mails.
You did see the mock-ups in the other email right?
https://www.behance.net/gallery/35183935/ubuntugnomeorg-the-redesign-V2
That does look super nice. :) Very slick.
Hmm, I know for certainty that Discourse can work decently for 'long stretched
discussions' - It's just not for us I think. It's also a bad
development I think that some refuse to use IRC or 'traditional methods' in
favor of something much less easily accessible (Slack). I do quite
like Slack and Discourse, but I doubt if they're for us do their more closed
nature (well, Slack more than Discourse, the latter still could
be feasible for e.g. newcomers, assuming we can get a lively community there).
We have been trying to push users onto the traditional methods for years, it
has not worked! These users love slack (I mainly just connect from
my IRC client so loose all the fancy features, and its just another channel).
IRC is critical for Development and QA leads, there are many
others outside that group (design, marketing, wiki, general testing) that just
don't use IRC
How is discourse closed?
Then it is what it is, I assume. Maybe some wrong wording by me here, I
meant slack = closed (as in, requires invite etc), Discourse is
accessible a lot easier.
I think most of the 'unwelcoming' goes towards new users that come in and
suggest massive changes to the project. They then go on a trolling
rage when they don't get their way. Part of my thinking if would be much easier
for new contributors if there was a central visible list of
tasks that need doing. They can start small, become known/respected amongst the
community and then work there way up though the community if
they are so inclined.
Hmm if that's really happening, that's quite sad. "unwelcoming" in the
sense of "too many unclear hoops to jump through" in my case.
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