On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 15:58:44 +0300, Thierry Andriamirado wrote: >Le 10 septembre 2016 20:13:47 UTC+03:00, Ralf Mardorf ><ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> a écrit : > >>It's not the task of the poor to help the poor. > >Of course IT IS! ;) >I'm not so poor compared to many malagasy people, but being in a poor >country, I should be one of the first to raise their hands to speak >for these "poors" who still use old hardwares. With the help of those >in rich countries. ;)
You are quoting me out of context. The context is that the poor can't donate new computers and they can't pay for infrastructure, such as internet access for everyone. _BUT_ rich people could, they are just not interested in doing it, they are greedy. Without the context of a computer mailing list, sure, there are more important issues. Not only computer usable for illiterates. Freedom, access to clean water, clothes etc.. People should fight for their human rights. However, in some countries they are even limited in fighting for their rights, sometimes due to not having the money, nor the education to do this. In my country poor people could sue administrative bodies for free and even the poorest citizens at least have the required minimum of education to do so. In some other countries people have to struggle to survive. They have nothing that allows them to fight for their rights. I guess this is really off-topic. Ubuntu is related to computers, so the context in regards to the Ubuntu philosophy at least should be about the right way to provide world wide computers and internet access. This already includes some real human rights, such as the right to get a little bit of education, to at least use a computer based on pictogram instead of written words. Btw. I doubt that there are a lot of unused Braille devices available people like to donate. Serious donations are not second hand things, the owner don't want to use anymore. Sure, poor people only can donate those things they don't need anymore, hence it's the task of the rich. Even in my country the rich get richer in hundreds of percent within the last decades, while the poor get poorer and poorer and even those who have got jobs, get not that much percent more reward, to compensate rising prices. Btw. I'm from Germany one of the richest nations, but de facto even we have got real poverty. I worked for children who have nothing to eat, in Germany, we just have some super rich people, but the same kind of poverty as some other countries else. This is due to the unwillingness to really change something. That's why I mentioned this: Ralf: >Oli: >> you know that our society isn't like what you dream of here > >"I Have a Dream" - Martin Luther King > >We can't go on as we did for decades. We make progress regarding computers. The computer you buy today is already old next week. We don't need this kind of progress. What we need is social progress. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
