2013/9/6 Sergio Schvezov <sergio.schve...@canonical.com> > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro < > p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 2013/9/6 Jordon Bedwell <jor...@envygeeks.com> >> >>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro >>> <p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > 2013/9/2 Jordon Bedwell <jor...@envygeeks.com> >>> >> >>> >> my suggestion is your realize the real facts >>> >> that all operating systems provide outdated drivers and it's your job >>> >> to update them if you want the latest drivers and to expect the distro >>> >> to be able to keep up like that is silly to say the least. >>> > >>> > >>> > That's a lie. >>> > On many other linux distro the drivers are in sync to upstream (or very >>> > close to it). >>> >>> Sure it is if you consider RPMFusion official (and I don't even >>> remember properly if they carry it.) I'll let you have that so I >>> don't have to explain known facts like the ones that are kind of >>> stated here: >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers >>> -- https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers I'm no Fedora or >>> OpenSuse user so I'll take those as facts that pretty much imply that >>> it would be impossible for them to be in sync or close to in sync >>> which leaves Arch and all the others that I'm not willing to verify. >>> Did you pull this magic metric only from Arch and then claim somebody >>> else lied? I only assume to ask that question because you did briefly >>> mention Arch. >>> >>> > It's silly to think that a distro cannot keep up like that, many >>> already >>> > do, and they work pretty well. >>> >>> Almost as silly as you thinking it's Ubuntu's job to be your hardware >>> vendor and give you the latest drivers? >>> >> >> Yes, I was talking about Arch and all Arch based distros (and some >> others), not Fedora or openSuSE. For me, using the word "many" for more >> then 3 things is not a lie. A lie is to ignore this distros and say "no OS >> do this". >> >> The OS-for-human-beings job is to make things easy for human beings. I >> think you haven't got that. >> It's should be easy to be up-to-date. It should be easy to upgrade your >> system. It should be easy to navigate. >> >> Everything should be easy. >> >> That's what successful mobile platforms are doing now and we must learn >> that from them. >> Average user don't even know what compile means. They don't even know >> what is a driver. They only want a faster PC, and delivering new GPU >> drivers do the job and make users happier to use their desktops. >> > > Average users don't really care if they are on the latest vendor > libraries, they just want it to work and the OS/distro should be > responsible for that. >
Yes, that is what I was trying to say. They want it work and to be as fast as it can be, without worrying about it.
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