On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro < p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2013/9/6 Jordon Bedwell <jor...@envygeeks.com> > >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro >> <p.oliveira.cas...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > 2013/9/2 Jordon Bedwell <jor...@envygeeks.com> >> >> >> >> my suggestion is your realize the real facts >> >> that all operating systems provide outdated drivers and it's your job >> >> to update them if you want the latest drivers and to expect the distro >> >> to be able to keep up like that is silly to say the least. >> > >> > >> > That's a lie. >> > On many other linux distro the drivers are in sync to upstream (or very >> > close to it). >> >> Sure it is if you consider RPMFusion official (and I don't even >> remember properly if they carry it.) I'll let you have that so I >> don't have to explain known facts like the ones that are kind of >> stated here: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers >> -- https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers I'm no Fedora or >> OpenSuse user so I'll take those as facts that pretty much imply that >> it would be impossible for them to be in sync or close to in sync >> which leaves Arch and all the others that I'm not willing to verify. >> Did you pull this magic metric only from Arch and then claim somebody >> else lied? I only assume to ask that question because you did briefly >> mention Arch. >> >> > It's silly to think that a distro cannot keep up like that, many >> already >> > do, and they work pretty well. >> >> Almost as silly as you thinking it's Ubuntu's job to be your hardware >> vendor and give you the latest drivers? >> > > Yes, I was talking about Arch and all Arch based distros (and some > others), not Fedora or openSuSE. For me, using the word "many" for more > then 3 things is not a lie. A lie is to ignore this distros and say "no OS > do this". > > The OS-for-human-beings job is to make things easy for human beings. I > think you haven't got that. > It's should be easy to be up-to-date. It should be easy to upgrade your > system. It should be easy to navigate. > > Everything should be easy. > > That's what successful mobile platforms are doing now and we must learn > that from them. > Average user don't even know what compile means. They don't even know what > is a driver. They only want a faster PC, and delivering new GPU drivers do > the job and make users happier to use their desktops. > Average users don't really care if they are on the latest vendor libraries, they just want it to work and the OS/distro should be responsible for that.
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