Perhaps we have two issues here: - the download during installs or first index update is 6-7MB extra, which makes a real difference when installing lots of computers - downloads from security.ubuntu.com being slow (eg 1-5KB/s) as it's >500ms away
The 20% additional download due to sources [1] would help both issues, but perhaps of bigger impact, trusting the country-level mirror for the security updates? Daniel --- [1] Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security Release.gpg [198 B] Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security Release [49.6 kB] Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/main Sources [83.5 kB] Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/restricted Sources [2494 B] Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/universe Sources [27.1 kB] Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/multiverse Sources [1383 B] Get:7 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/main amd64 Packages [296 kB] Get:8 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/restricted amd64 Packages [4627 B] Get:9 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/universe amd64 Packages [77.7 kB] Get:10 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/multiverse amd64 Packages [2186 B] Get:11 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/main i386 Packages [311 kB] Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/restricted i386 Packages [4620 B] Get:13 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/universe i386 Packages [80.5 kB] Get:14 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/multiverse i386 Packages [2371 B] Get:15 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/main TranslationIndex [74 B] Get:16 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/multiverse TranslationIndex [71 B] Get:17 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/restricted TranslationIndex [72 B] Get:18 http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security/universe TranslationIndex [73 B] On 24 July 2013 10:46, Robie Basak <robie.ba...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 09:31:15PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> Before we run off and expend a lot more effort on this, I'd like to >> see something other than handwaving that this is really is a >> significant issue. > > [size comparisions snipped] > > My concern is latency, not size. How many round trips will we save this > way? For cloud images using Amazon S3 mirrors, for example, each request > is quite a bit slower AIUI, and apt-get doesn't currently support > concurrent requests to a single server. > > This is a pain for instances that start up with cloud-init and > immediately have to update sources and install things before they can > become functional. It'd be nice to see the delay from "juju deploy" to > having a live service running get shorter. Same for "juju add-unit". > Admittedly an alternative means to achieve this could be to have > cloud-init remove the deb-src lines first, but it seems a shame to leave > others behind if this really does improve things. > > I agree that I should come up with actual figures before pushing ahead > for this reason. > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss -- Daniel J Blueman -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss