My 2 cents. Let other distros do this first. Wait 5 years to allow problems to be sorted out. Then discuss again.
-- A bug magnet El Dec 5, 2011, a las 12:15, Matt Alexander <ubuntu....@mattalexander.com> escribió: > Sure, using find or which, etc., can be used to locate a particular app, but > that's not really the point. Why not simplify things and put all binaries > under /usr/bin? Then you don't have to teach users about silly distinctions > like "Oh, see, if it's an app that's meant to be used by a System > Adminstrator, then it goes into /usr/sbin". Who cares? Just put everything > in /usr/bin to keep things simple. > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Dane Mutters <dmutt...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know if the original poster has since learned this, but I think it's > worth noting several things, in case the person coming over from Windows > hasn't figured it out. (If this is a non-issue, please disregard this email.) > > 1) Linux/Unix executables don't have a .exe extension. Typically, they don't > have any extension at all, and can conceivably have every extension > imaginable (including common ones like .sh for scripts). If you're looking > for an executable, forget looking for its extension. Try using the "find" > command to look for executable files, or if you know the one you want, > already, use the "which" command, as above. > > 2) You almost certainly don't need to find that file. As mentioned above, if > it's not in your PATH setting, then something is broken. This is pretty > rare. If you need to execute a command--from a terminal or from an "open > with" dialogue, just type the command (in the appropriate dialogue box, as > needed). If you want to open a PDF, and the GUI hasn't figured out how to do > that, type "acroread", "evince", or whatever you have installed into the box. > > 3) <rant> +1 about Windows having an absurdly hard-to-use filesystem, where > finding binaries/executables is concerned. Once you learn Linux, you'll > bless its build-in filesystem, and probably find little/no need to mess with > it. For that matter, +1 to all the stuff about /bin, /sbin, /usr/local/bin, > /usr/local/sbin, /opt, etc. having useful, specific purposes. Sure, it bugs > me when some program insists on installing someplace I don't think makes > sense. Usually it'll let me change it upon install, if it's from a script, > but if not, I can still put it into the PATH if it's not already there, and > after that it doesn't matter! So long as the uninstall functionality works > for a given program (which it REALLY, REALLY should...), and the executable > structure of the program is remotely sensible (looking at you, OpenOffice, > Mozilla, etc.), it's all gravy, so far as I'm concerned. Proprietary > programs are the more problematic culprits, anyway, and there's not much a > distribution can do about them, so far as I'm aware. </rant> > > 4) I've never liked Fedora, anyway. :-p > > > I'm sure the real gurus here know a lot more about the specifics than I do, > so have at it! > > --Dane > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Colin Watson <cjwat...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 02:40:31AM +0800, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > > We could even enhance which to look in obvious places off the path (perhaps > > locatedb?) and print the output on stderr if we really wanted to. > > Please don't - 'which' is used in scripts and needs to preserve its > current behaviour. Any extra behaviour should be added to a > different/new program. > > -- > Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
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