Hi.  My problem with sites like google or yahoo for mail is accessibility.
I'm a totally blind person.  Both web sites use javascript that force me into a 
Firefox session if I want to use them.
Unfortunately, the Mozilla developers seem to put most of there recent efforts 
into Windows access while letting
Linux access get ignored.
I have no problem reading mailing lists with mutt or reading the list archives 
with elinks, so google groups is something
for me to avoid when ever possible.
Mutt is a very powerful email client.  I've tried others, but always end up 
back with mutt because it has features I've
never found in other mail clients.

I can't afford the cost of Windows or a Windows screen reader, so don't even 
suggest I use Windows!

          Kenny


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