2009/8/25 Jan-Michael Heller <j...@mail.hansis-braindump.de>: > Hi there, > > is singed up this mailinglist, because i thought of having an > Ubuntu-flavor for corporate use. > I experienced that ubuntu in its form now (8.04~9.04) is a bit too automatic > to > handle well and leave customers long-time unsupported. I know for some > people out there, the fact that sometime anything automates wrong in > ubuntu, gives money to them, because they get payed for support. > But aren't we all interested in a system, that we can hand-out to anybody > and it will just run and be easy to maintain? > Full automation is one aspect, that makes it easy for homeusers. But in > a corporate environment a teached person (should) handle with the > problems the users have.
You are talking about LTS here :) Dapper LTS was very strongly supported and was very very polished. Hardy is still the same but I am using bloatin edge versions, so I can't surerly say that it is rock stable. However, again, it was very polished and robust last time I used it. > What, if there would be a long-time-supported or what ever called > flavour of ubuntu, that is easy to maintain, meaning: > No automated driverbuilds at bootup and > no changings in versions, of course Those drivebuilds happens only after you upgrade. Hardy had nice bunch of upgrades for nvidia and stuff, but now I think it is rather calm. LTS doesn't change versions of software unless you're using backports repository (which is disabled by default). > only security updates You can do it already by yourself. Just disable all other repositories excluding security ones - via /etc/apt/sources.list or System => Administration => Software Sources. > great robustnes: > - linux - just proofen hardware-detection at bootup, no underlying Just ensure boxes have up-to-date hwdata package. Otherway, I think it is already there. > skripts, that generate configurationfiles, for everything they see and > keep it forever > - better tested (community is there to help, some unixers would like > easy-to-maintain systems for ther families too) But it is already tested a lot and it is easy to maintain for families, there are lot of stories about grandma using Ubuntu floating around. > - A centralized configuration that is under /etc/ and not too often > changed by scripts, only if that is explicitly necessary. It is already done, as a basic principle of Debian and therefore Ubuntu too. > And a bit more tidied-up configuration-tools that really use /etc/ > like the admin does. Yes, I agree, some nice guis for some uncovered system settings would be nice. > Ubuntu was so nice and tidy, because of its debian-flavour in the > beginnig and now its too much affected by many skript-features, that > make your life hard. For example? As far as I know, you still can turn off all scripts and run the tidy ship. > Maybe someone knows, how Canonical thinks about corporate use of Ubuntu, > but good unix-systems are known for their robustness, and this is > something, that ubuntu is still missing a bit (make it just a little bit more > like > Knoppix) What exactly it miss? So far as I have seen there is no streamlined practice/doc/knowhow places about it, but Ubuntu is used in corps. Anyway, it is question to ask Canonical directly, but they offer lot of choices even for individual users now - begining with phone/email support and ending with serious problem solving. And even so - there are at least bunch of companies with very compentent specialists who dig Ubuntu/Debian as they work with such systems every day in their daily work. > And I am not an enemy of scripts, but they should be used with care. > > I hope someone understands me. > > regards > > Jan If you about serious about implementing Ubuntu in Enterprise and have concrete qestions about implementation - I suggest contact Canonical about it, because it will require serious expertise. Cheers, Peter. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
