Wait, I have a new proposal! Let's *not* include Empathy in Karmic, but plan on including it in Karmic +1 (and *announce* this) Why? Well, it will still give Empathy the attention it needs from developers to fix the bugs that would be considered regressions during the switch without actually replacing Pidgin before they're fixed. Aren't i brilliant?
*On the other hand*, it might *still* be preferable to include Empathy in Karmic to have more of a guarantee that bugs will be fixed in time for the 10.04 LTS release. As someone commented on my last post<http://pinstack.blogspot.com/2009/06/replace-pidgin-with-empathy-in-karmic.html?showComment=1245133369575#c6152600795066756079> : > Empathy has been the top active project in Gnome for the last few weeks, > with about 100 commits a week on average. The pace of development is > astounding. Once the move to Empathy is the default, Ubuntu can start > depending on it for other applications' communication needs (using Tubes). > Gnome Games are getting Tubes support. Vino just got Tubes support, meaning > that you can share your desktop with your contacts in Empathy. > I understand why 8.04 didn't ship with Empathy, but the change needs to > happen. Empathy is 95% there. The needed changes can be made before Karmic > if Ubuntu (and Canonical) commits to it. If 9.10 ships with Empathy, all the > major bugs will be worked out by 10.04. Who wants to add yet ANOTHER new > technology to another LTS. So, what shall it be? Karmic 9.10, or Karmic +1 10.04 LTS<http://pinstack.blogspot.com/2009/06/empathy-in-ubuntu-karmic-910-or-karmic.html> ? > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 00:44, Asif Youssuff <yoa...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 17:36 -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote: > > IMHO Empathy is great for most users, especially new ones, and it can > > replace poth pidgin AND ekiga. It lacks the basic features like the > > ones you mentioned, but i don't think they are showstoppers and > > including it in Karmic or the next release i'm sure would guarantee > > that all of those would be resolved within the release cycle. > > I've been playing with Empathy for a while, and it has an extremely > annoying behavior -- when a message is received from a person without an > open conversation open, the alert comes up in the notification area, and > does not spawn a new window -- this is unlike any other IM application I > have ever used. > > Why do i need to click on the icon when in Pidgin (or other IM apps), I > can simply switch to the new conversation tab? Having to move my hand > from the keyboard is extremely annoying in this case. > > Also, most of the time, I don't even notice that I have a new > conversation, since I don't look at the notification area often -- this > means that friends can leave messages, and leave before I have the > chance to respond, simply because I never noticed that i received an IM, > even though I was actively using the application. > > I filed a bug report, and didn't get a friendly response, sadly. > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=585914 > > The response I got was "we don't popup a window in the face of the user > to not steal focus" -- you can read the bug report for more. > > So for me, empathy is NOT ready to replace pidgin, as it presents a > usability regression for me. > > -Asif > > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > -- http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo
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