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------- Doorgestuurd bericht ------- Van: Jan Claeys <ubu...@janc.be> Aan: Bug 332945 <332...@bugs.launchpad.net> Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com> Onderwerp: Re: [Bug 332945] Re: [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information Datum: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:15:00 +0100 (CC'ed to ubuntu-devel-discuss, as this is where further discussions should happen. Please everybody answer there.) Op zaterdag 28-03-2009 om 02:23 uur [tijdzone +0000], schreef Ted Gould: > The notification area is fundamentally broken. It's broken in the > fact that what it requires is applications to make a small X window, > which then gets embedded into the panel. This means that the > application must learn what the interface of what is around it is, and > conform to that. > There is no reasonable way for applications to learn how all the > different panels work, and make custom behavior for all of them. What > is better is if the applications export the data they want to appear > there, and leave the rendering of that data to the panel itself. Then > it will be consistent with the UI concepts that are being used. I agree with that mostly, and I think most developers will agree with this idea in principle. One important issue that people have been complaining about is that you[*] removed some very important icons in the notification area without providing an alternative. No, the popup/popunder is not an alternative, because it's not _persistent_ (it seems like you[*] don't understand this, because I haven't seen a single answer to this complaint--except for "disable the new behaviour of update-notifier completely"). What you[*] should have done is provide an alternative: exporting the data so that something can display it, and provide at least a basic "something" so that it actually gets shown. (Maybe it's possible to include this in the new indicator-messages applet, I don't know.) [*] not you personally of course, but the whole group of people involved in this change ------- Doorgestuurd bericht ------- -- Jan Claeys -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
