2008/12/26 HggdH <hgg...@gmail.com>: > Le Thursday 25 December 2008 à 22:40 +0200, Dotan Cohen a écrit : >> 2008/12/25 Manish Sinha <manishsinha.t...@gmail.com>: >> > I again repeat the above line since bandwidth is one of the two main >> > issues, first being the installer connecting to the internet without >> > user's consent. >> > >> >> Having the network cable plugged in implies consent. If you don't want >> you computer connecting to a network, then don't plug it in. I have >> lived in areas of limited and expensive bandwidth, and even for a >> desktop with the network cable under the desk, it seemed common sense >> that so long as it was plugged in, something would try to connect. > > Sorry, you are generalising from your own perceptions. The original > complaint was clearly set against going out into the wild Internet > without asking first (and, <gasp/>, downloading other/new programmes). > > I agree with it. If I have a full CD with Ubuntu, I do not expect it to > get into the Internet without telling me first, no matter what. >
I also agree that the original complaint was valid. However, if it is so important to the user that the computer not connect to the network, then he could be a little responsible himself and pull the cable. That is what I did when I lived in an area of expensive bandwidth, and it is what I would do if I were worried about security / remaining anonymous. > If being connected is what it takes to get out, then warn/suggest the > user to disconnect if no such contact is wanted. But never expect > *implicit*, *implied*, consents to have been given. > I agree with this as well. However, like I said, to those whom the issue is critical there is a more secure solution. Your solution assumes well-behaved applications. Not all apps are, and those worried should take that into account. > The fact that something will try to connect if a connection is available > is the root of the problem. The default should be *NO* connection unless > explicitly allowed, be it out or in. > Agreed. Our only difference of opinion is whether or not a concerned user should take a bit of responsibility himself. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
