-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Fergal Daly wrote: > 2008/5/16 A. Walton : >> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Kai Schroeder wrote: >> Whether or not you agree with it, it's been written in the HIG for >> years and years, and it's the natural layout for long-time GNOME users >> (and Mac OS X users for that matter). Changing this at such a late >> point is just going to trigger an immense amount of frustration (I >> imagine it'd be like waking up and noticing your mouse axes flipped >> and your buttons were mapped the opposite direction). So no, the HIG >> does not need to change in this aspect. >> >> Instead, for those who actually care about this (read: pedants, >> KDE/Windows users), there's gtk_dialog_set_alternative_button_order() > > I find this "pedants, KDE/Windows users" interesting. I just gave an > old laptop with xubuntu to my 12 year-old niece, she is neither a > pedant nor a "KDE user" nor much of a Windows user. She is going to > want to use whatever software works, whether it's kitchscratch, > gitchscratch or xitchscratch. She might notice one day that "OK" keeps > changing from left-side to right-side and complain about Linux being a > pain or it might just remain a subconscious annoyance, either way, > it's a pain. [snip] > It seems from the paragraph below that there is a way - there just > needs to be a flame war to decide which one to twiddle by default for > those who don't care,
That's exactly the problem - no matter what decision is made the half of the users (those more aware who has used linux for years, who should be precious for any distribution as it's them who advocacy for Ubuntu and Linux in general) will be pissed off. I guess it is possible to choose button layout and theme based on the DE that's active. But it still won't be consistent GUI. The difference between KDE and Gnome applications cannot be reduced to the different widgets or button layout. Unless KDE and GNOME developers agree to create common HIG there is no way to create consistent desktop by using K* and G* applications simultaneously. And if someone wonder if consistency is worth all the effort look at the Mac OS X - people use this system among other things because of how does all applications look alike. Also saying that that most people doesn't care about HIG and It only matters for developers and fan boys isn't fair. It means that what developers does has no real value.. > > F > Best Regards, Krzysztof Klimonda -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://getfiregpg.org iD8DBQFILe2ars/V4+kvH8sRAknUAJsE4ts/B+IKiCaB6ueodYHcZdJKCgCguCmJ WiwikBaMxaMYK63RhuCZo2E= =2AFY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
