On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 20:09 +0200, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: > Le lundi 28 avril 2008 à 12:25 -0400, Cory K. a écrit : > > Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: > > > I've been through both bugs and to me, as an occasional jack user, it > > > seems that the best would be that jackd defaults to the pulseaudio > > > output. Users that have better hardware and do more advanced stuff are > > > able to tweak what they need. > > > > > > > This could be done if JACK were in main. Then the needed module could be > > built. > What module and why does it need to be in main? > > > > But it should *not* be the default behavior because it introduces a > > added layer of latency that also impacts the user experience in a > > negative way. ie: performance. > My point was: is performance really an issue for base users that don't > know how to configure jackd anyway? If we leave it not working > out-of-the-box at all, this is worse for everybody than getting bad > performances. > > If you don't need a high-quality sound in perfect realtime and don't use > many tracks/instruments/sources at the same time, the problem may not > appear at all. And if so, you are likely to accept tweaking things a > little further (using a GUI?). > just $.02 -- there are users who want to use ardour but don't need zero-latency performance. for instance, i produce small radio documentaries and ould like to do this using free software; ardour is the obvious choice, but i won't be recording on my computer -- i have a handheld device i use for all recording, and then upload the resultant mp3 files onto my computer for editing.
> > > It is trickier than it seems. There is no "best" solution for everyone. > > This (to me) is simply one of those situations where the user has to > > figure out what they are doing. > I think Ubuntu's philosophy is "make it work anyway for every standard > user needs". That may not be possible in the state of the software but > if there's a way to reduce the unexpected issues, it should be chosen. > Further configuration should always be leaved to more special cases. > > > > PulseAudio or JACK should be used separately by default IMO. I'm not > > saying don't make the tools available, but making JACK work through > > PulseAudio by default is bad. > Think of somebody that uses Rosegarden/Ardour/etc. once in a month and > uses its computer for everyday work: he needs PulseAudio because running > JACK all the time would be a waste. This case should be handled. > i think my use case applies here as well. most of the time i'm listening to mp3's; sometimes i do audio work, in which case i want ardour to run unproblematically without uninstalling pulseaudio or whatever. > I know Ubuntu Studio aims at a professional system, not at a basic usage > suiting set of applications. But since it is also Ubuntu, I guess it > should find a compromise. > > > > I'll consult upstream to see what their opinion is. > Good - they have too find a solution for this kind of case too. > > And thanks for your work! > > ditto on the thanks! matt > -- Matt Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
