On Saturday 15 March 2008 02:25:43 Remco wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, there aren't any ext3 defrag tools anyway (ok maybe a few userspace
> > ones, but that seems unusual), so we can avoid *that* bit of the argument,
> > but there is NTFS support, and that definitely *does* need to be defragged.
> 
> Yeah, it's weird. NTFS does fragment a deal more than any Unix
> filesystem I know, but Unix filesystems still fragment! Quite a bit,
> too, if you have only 1% of free space like I always seem to have. ;-)
> The question of course, is: does that make filesystem operations much
> slower? I don't have any hard data on that. Just a gut-feeling that
> says "Yes".
<snip> 
> Remco

        I've been using shake for the past months and I can tell you that I 
note a substantial difference in my system if a few weeks goes by without me 
running it ( i have a cron at the last day of the month)
        Its quite easy to install and use, but no package for ubuntu.
        Other than the targz I just needed libattr1-dev, attr and user_xattr on 
my fstab:
        UUID=e3740d46-69f9-4a4b-8f5c-707d262369a4 /home           ext3    
noatime,user_xattr         0       2

        give it a try.
        by the way I too have my disks many times close to 100% full.
        $ sudo fsck.ext3 -fnv /dev/sda5
        185295 inodes used (3.29%)
        26355 non-contiguous inodes (14.2%)
        # of inodes with ind/dind/tind blocks: 32742/519/0
        10411844 blocks used (91.77%)


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