When I click on the menu for synaptic an icon (starting administrative 
application) shows on the panel with the other open programs as if it is 
attempting to run then the icon disappears and nothing more happens 
(satellite modem connection see below). I can normally repeat this 
several times. I never have gotten "starting without administrative 
privileges". Yes this is very strange.

Ready for "Outer Limits", it gets stranger. My hunches led me to some 
more bizarre checks after I noticed when connected to the Toshiba ISDN 
router (64k) everything worked properly. Later after reconfirming that 
there were problems when attached to the WildBlue satellite modem (They 
claim broadband and it is if you need to download an .iso but pings are 
1300ms, 1.5m) I completely disconnected the network cord and both 
programs loaded and would ask for the password just as they did on the 
ISDN connection. The ISDN router is set up for a workgroup called "bob" 
but no other computers are connected to the router.

More: When I simply attached the cord to ISDN router, or satellite modem 
or disconnected entirely, I found that I could repeat the good and bad 
behavior as long as I didn't actually type in the password in both 
programs and instead clicked "Cancel". Naturally, once I had typed in 
the password both programs would work without even displaying the 
password cue.

Summary:
ISDN router = both programs work
Not connected = both programs work
Satellite modem = synaptic doesn't work but upgrade-manager works about 
50% of time (See "Additional strangeness" below).

I prefer to use the satellite connection for upgrades and installs 
because it is much faster which probably led me to filing the original 
bug report.

Additional strangeness: Synaptic almost never works when connected to 
the satellite modem. I say never because I almost think on one of the 20 
or so attempts it did. Right now update-manager loads 100% of time and 
about 50% of the time it asks for a password when I press "Check". After 
I press "Cancel" I can repeat the press "Check". If it doesn't do the 
check properly the program hangs, I get the spinning ball, and then I am 
forced to issue a "killall update-manager" to stop the program.

Now that I think about it this may have something to do with the way the 
program is polling the ISP considering those long ping times. There 
might be a timeout function that needs tweaking.

BTW this computer almost never crashes and as far as I can tell has no 
stability problems. Firefox works reasonably well considering the long 
ping times and large files download well.

I should have warned you from the beginning that strangeness is the norm 
for me.

Thanks for sticking with me on this.

Ken


Dimitrios Symeonidis wrote:
> When you say "synaptic won't run" what exactly do you mean? do you get
> some "unable to resolve host" message, or does it not run at all? Both
> synaptic and update-manager should ask for your password, so it's
> strange that you get to enter the password only when running update-
> manager... When you run synaptic package manager from the menu, do you
> get a message "starting without administrative privileges"?
>
>

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Won't run but apt-get does
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