fred: nobody's talking about a grub loader that can basically encrypt a
file on your hdd or any other totally unnecessary feature. we're talking
about an interface that is visually appealing and the success in this
area that other distros have shows that it IS possible. if you're into
minimalistic, sure, deactivate it. but if we're trying to make people
switch from windows to the ubuntu family well then they're obviously
gonna have a microsoft operating system running on the same computer so
the grub menu WON'T be hidden, don't kid yourself. and well coming from
windows they know one thing: great interface, crappy codebase ... grub's
the other way around. why would you want to scare new users off with a
great boot loader? for instance, they immediately think "why in all the
world do i now have two ubuntu's?" (regular & recovery) ?? etc. so WHY
if they're supposed to make the switch make it harder? we, the people
who are already "in the know" and everything could easily change it back
to minimalistic/"off" (that is, invisible or so) ... still opposed?

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Ubuntu grub should be deluxe and animated like OpenSUSE grub
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3339
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