On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Mark Shuttleworth <668...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > if the feature was really that important, someone would have > stepped up to do it *properly*.
"Properly" as defined by you. You set the bar wherever you want, and if someone doesn't jump high enough, it's not good enough. You want us to use your software, but when we tell you your software isn't meeting our needs, you tell us to fix it ourselves. But then when someone does so, you say that he didn't do it "properly." It isn't hard to read between the lines here. Just be honest and admit that you don't want the feature implemented. > This is not about feeding you vague disinformation. This is about knowing > clearly what we care about and > devoting precious time and resources to that. Indeed, it's "about" whatever you say it's "about," and anyone who disagrees doesn't know what it's "about." An easy way to dismiss others' opinions. > It's not really possible to have a balanced conversation with anybody who has > no > appreciation for that. So now it's not possible to have a "balanced" conversation with users. We couldn't possibly understand what you designers and developers and testers are doing. Just because we actually use the end result of your work doesn't mean we know anything about what it's like to use it. > Do you think it's socially acceptable to go around demanding that others take > care of your needs, > when you're perfectly capable of achieving it for yourself? Do you think it's socially acceptable to go around dismissing the needs--you said it yourself, needs--of your users, and trying to distract, discourage, and deny their requests and attempts to meet those needs? How hypocritical to say that the users are perfectly capable of doing it themselves when you didn't accept the patch. Make up your mind! Either users are ignorant fools who don't know what they really need, or they are capable people who should go write their own software. You can't have it both ways when you speak in absolutes or generalizations. But if they are the latter, that is all the more reason to listen to them. > Grow up. > > Mark I fear that this is the handwriting on the wall. When the SABDFL of the project tells his passionate, concerned, loyal users to, "Grow up," it does not bode well. "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you..." -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/668415 Title: Movement of Unity launcher To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/668415/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
