On Apr 29, 2009 10:10am, Matt Wheeler <m...@funkyhat.org> wrote > He doesn't teach, but that is irrelevant, and confirms my point. If even > IT staff are ignoring updates unless they are prompted by a window > opening, how many normal users are doing the same?
Unlike mac_v, I will not disparage your IT friend for not installing updates immediately. Sometimes there are valid reasons not to install updates. That updated kernel that contains a security fix for a filesystem I don't use, may actually break my wireless card, or my scsi controller. That new version of open office may break a plugin I'm using. It's happened in the past. In fact, good IT people will often test updates on a test machine before installing on their own systems. This goes for every OS, not just Ubuntu. Remember, almost all updates include new features (potential bugs) as well as bug fixes. Ubuntu can't test everything in your environment, just like Apple or MS can't. Using your logic above, would you prefer to have the entire screen gray out and the update manager pop up and be the only thing you can do? That would force people to update, even your IT friend... but is that a good thing? no. If that's what you want, then you should just install all updates automatically without asking the user. I know it's not what I want... Perhaps it's not a good time to install updates. Like you're at a friend's place with metered internet and don't want to run up their bill, or you're on a cell phone connection, or you're not even on a network at the time. Or your significant other is using your computer when the window comes up, they close it and forget to tell you about it. Instead of having a persistent, small icon in the corner of your screen telling you there are updates when you're ready, you have to maximize the update manager and then close it, and then remember to update at some other time because there's no reminder. See my earlier posts in this thread for use cases like the above which were never addressed. This change forces Ubuntu to make a lot of assumptions about my life and my usage. It's impossible for Ubuntu to know when would be a good time for me to update, therefore opening the update manager at "random" intervals is annoying, nagging, confusing and counterproductive. And that's without getting into the argument over whether auto-launching full, interactive applications without the user requesting them is good UI design or not. This is not an attack on the developers who do a wonderful job. I even understand the overall goal, although I think it's misguided. I simply think this change is wrong and makes Ubuntu more confusing, not less, and as someone who wants Ubuntu to be the best it can be I'd like to see it reverted. I am concerned that there is a bit of bunker mentality with the developers, which given some of the virtiol on this board is not completely unexpected, and I would encourage them to reconsider. -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs