On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 14:35 +0000, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > Tim Post wrote: > > Sorry folks, I'm done promoting Ubuntu. The lack of response from Ubuntu > > tells all, barring a few emails from Mark asking us to STFU. > > > > Redhat negotiated the first patent deal that is agreeable with GPL3, > > what has Ubuntu done other than tweak the work of others (i.e Debian) ? > > > > Good luck Mark.. > > > > Tim, all of the distributions face this question with Mozilla, and > Ubuntu is directly involved in the design of a positive resolution. If > it were not for our active engagement with Mozilla, I assure you the > outcome would have been much less palatable even than this current state.
I suggest that the software in the main repository is either free, or it is not. Free means: 0 - The freedom to run the program, for any purpose 1 - The freedom to study how the program works and adapt it to your needs 2 - The freedom to redistribute copies so that you can help your neighbor. 3 - The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public so that the whole community benefits. The EULA impedes freedom 3. By using Firefox, users of free software are forced to give up freedom 3 by agreeing that their improvements are subject to laws that might not apply to them. Furthermore, those who do not speak English fluently may give up this right, which we have worked since 1984 to guarantee, unwittingly. Lets get past that point first. > Resolutions to this sort of debate never come from abusive commentary. > They just NEVER do. Venting and insulting someone else may make you feel > immediately better, but so does relieving yourself on your own doorstep. > For good reason, I would ask you use the privy ;-) We have a code of > conduct in Ubuntu precisely because we know that many of these issues > touch on deeply held beliefs. Those discussions are hard enough as it is > - they become impossible when people publicly insult one another. Please > respect and follow the code of conduct here: > > http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct Respect it? I live it. I live in self imposed poverty in the poorest country in south east Asia by choice. I teach people how to use free software to better themselves and their income. I make $0 from this endeavor. Until yesterday, Ubuntu was my model. Aside from that, I really __do__ appreciate what your trying to do and vehemently despise the fact that I am forced to become antagonistic. However, please, do not question my conduct in the future. My points are valid. I can also be quoted as saying (on this very bug) "Lets see what happens". Your apathy in communicating is not a reflection of my integrity. Friendly, --Tim. -- AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/269656 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
