Hi Ferdinand, At last year's conference speakers included: 'The Gadget Man' and professional type presenters from Microsoft, Apple, Google and NEC with their 'Broadband for Seniors' programme. Linux Australia would have to be able to offer a presentation of equal or better quality to make an impact. If Linux Australia have that capability and are interested I suggest they contact the ASCCA organizers to see if there was an opportunity in the program for such a presentation.
Another alternative would be to have a Linux stand there. Apparently this has been done at an education conference somewhere but I am unaware of the details. Whatever is done should be professional and should include provision for back up to any interested people. Regards, Tony On 24 April 2010 14:18, Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehn...@web.de> wrote: > Dear Tony, > > thank you very much for the background. Well I am located in the North West > of Sydney and would be able to give after hour or on the weekend support and > help in terms of installation and getting things running. That means if > there is a local Club associated with the ASCCA, he is always welcome to > contact me in this regard. > > I am not a professional in regard to IT or Computer Technology. In a > previous life I was for some time working in programming and project > engineering. Computing is just getting a hobby of mine not to get rusty. > > Coming back to the meeting. As written, I will be able to prepare a > presentation, but I am not certain whether I am available personally for the > presentation. For that reason I will ask people on the list whether some of > them has time and how we can get together. > > Keep in contact > Ferdinand > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From*: Tony Addis > <tonyad...@gmail.com<tony%20addis%20%3ctonyad...@gmail.com%3e> > > > *To*: Ferdinand Lehnard > <ferdinand.lehn...@web.de<ferdinand%20lehnard%20%3cferdinand.lehn...@web.de%3e> > > > *Subject*: Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010 > *Date*: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:14:31 +1000 > > Hi Ferdinand, > > I originally sent Mich the email which started this discussion, and while > grateful for Mitch's regard for my privacy, do not mind my name being > mentioned in these emails. I am a member of a computer club in a retirement > village on the Gold Coast and our club is a member club of ASCCA. I > attended the ASCCA conference last year and it was excellent except there > was no advocacy for Linux. I will be going to the conference again this > year with some of my colleagues but as a newbie, am not in a position to > deliver a presentation. > > You are correct in assuming that elderly people with tight budgets would > welcome Linux and Open Source software; a] if they knew about them b] if > they had confidence in them and c] if they could be assured of backup in the > event there was a modem or wifi malfunction or some other technical > problem. We will be introducing Ubuntu 10.04 to our club when it is > available in the knowledge that we have support from our local LUG. > > I am sure that other ASCCA clubs would also begin to use Ubuntu if the > conditions a, b, and c above were met and I don't believe there would be any > objection from ASCCA. > > What Linux Australia faces here is a great opportunity to promote Linux and > in particular the Ubuntu distro. A target market of over 100 clubs > representing thousands of computer users knowing nothing about Linux! > > Regards, > > Tony > > > > On 22 April 2010 23:34, Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehn...@web.de> > wrote: > > Dear Andre, > > thanks for the info. You should think that especially elderly people with > tight budgets will welcome alternatives who offer them a variety of > possibilities in terms of computing - but as you wrote they are all biased > against "free", Linux, open.... Over the the last 20 years they got > sprinkled with the word "Microsoft" either on workplace or later at home - > since Windows 3.0 was coming into the market. There were better systems > earlier in the market, i. e. DR-DOS, the AmigaOS based on C and Assembler, > all forgotten. > > Is there someone planning to go for that meeting? If yes, let me know, I > like to give you support in preparation of the presentation and may be also > personal support during the meeting. I can't say right now, yes I am coming, > or no I am coming not, because for the time being I am not sure whether I am > available - it's in the mid of the week. I just have some time on weekends. > > > > Ferdinand > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From*: Andre Mangan > <andreman...@gmail.com<andre%20mangan%20%3candreman...@gmail.com%3e> > > > > *To*: Ferdinand Lehnard > <ferdinand.lehn...@web.de<ferdinand%20lehnard%20%3cferdinand.lehn...@web.de%3e> > > > *Cc*: Chris Martin <ch...@martin.cc<chris%20martin%20%3cch...@martin.cc%3e>>, > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > *Subject*: Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010 > > > *Date*: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:27:32 +1000 > > > Thank you for that information Ferdinand. > > A further few comments about ASCCA and its affiliated clubs - a quick look > through what computer training individual clubs offer - I found one that > offers an introduction to Ubuntu (http://users.tpg.com.au/cphills/) as > well as one that teaches Mac. It is likely that there are more. Most of > them are hopelessly entrenched in Windows although Firefox is recommended as > a browser. > > Andre > > > > On 21 April 2010 07:35, Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehn...@web.de> > wrote: > > Dear All, > the announcement is in their newsletter vol. 12 from February 2010 and is > indeed held in the Power House Museum. Newsletter attached > > regards > Ferdinand > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From*: Andre Mangan > <andreman...@gmail.com<andre%20mangan%20%3candreman...@gmail.com%3e> > > > *To*: Chris Martin <ch...@martin.cc<chris%20martin%20%3cch...@martin.cc%3e> > > > *Cc*: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > *Subject*: Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010 > *Date*: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:06:43 +1000 > > Chris, there is nothing on the ASCCA website yet about the coming > conference. > > In the past it has been held at the Power House Museum in Sydney. Date: > 8th and 9th September, 2010. > > It may be better to contact ASCCA directly: > http://www.ascca.org.au/contact.html > > Andre > > > > On 20 April 2010 10:18, Chris Martin <ch...@martin.cc> wrote: > > Mitch. Can you let us know when and where the conference will be held > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Chris Martin > m: 0419812371 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Andre Mangan <andreman...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hello Mitch, > > Your posting on the the existence of ASCCA prompted me to contact one of > the local Computer Pals for Seniors group. > > A primary prompt was when a 90-year-old dear friend got into difficulties > with sending emails and I tried to look for support organisations to assist > him. You may be aware how difficult it is to guide someone via the phone > and screenshots to solve a computer problem. Apparently a home visit was > indicated but none of the organisations under the governmental auspices of > providing services to senior Australians had the manpower (womanpower) > available to accommodate such a need. > > The problem in question was eventually resolved. > > Today, after negotiating an invitation, I attended a local Computer Pals > for Seniors group. I have had about 25 years of experience with computers > and thought myself to be adequately qualified to offer my services. Even > then I had to argue my case. A misunderstanding? > > Perhaps the word got out that I was there to present "something alien" > because an early remark of "we don't teach Apple, only Microsoft" gave me > some indication of things to come. I bit my tongue. > > As the meeting was about to finish I asked for time to address the > assemblage. This was granted. > > My offering was this: That I was willing to provide assistance with > computer problems in the home in return for the reimbursement of traveling > expenses ( I am talking about country distances and country travel ). That > was well received and a negotiator and person for contact was established. > > I made sure that everyone understood that I was not prepared to teach the > use of Microsoft software but would assist anyone who needs assistance out > of a tight spot no matter which operating system was in use. > > I also took the opportunity to question why anyone would use commercial > software, especially when the cost to pensioners is considered, the group of > people who can least afford it. One person wanted to argue that MS Word was > far superior to OpenOffice.org. I pointed out that I had not come to argue > any case for or against. > Yes, I showed them Ubuntu Karmic Koala, took their photos via Cheese and > generally displayed, with pride, what Ubuntu has to offer. Unfortunately > there was no hot-spot for internet. > > The group seems to be firmly entrenched in Microsoft products because MS > has given them licences for all their software at almost no cost. Another > factor is that many have an "inherited" computer system, one passed down to > them as relatives upgrade their equipment and, of course, equipped with > Windows. > > Will I go to the next meeting? You can bet on it. > > I noticed that MS is represented as one of the contributors to the Annual > Conference in September. > > I wanted to post this so that whoever is going to represent (or present) > Ubuntu at the ASCCA conference in Sydney in September is not caught on the > back foot. > > Good Luck. > > Andre > > > > > > On 22 March 2010 19:16, Mitch Towner <mitch.towner.ubu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Everyone, > > I received some more information today regarding the 2010 ASCCA > Conference. I was advised that approximately 200 delegates attended the > conference last year. As such, this may not be quite such a "grand > scale" type of thing as I initially thought. > > Is anyone interested in helping put together & deliver a presentation at > this conference? To be completely honest, I am not much of a public > speaker. 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