On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM, John Baer <bae...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 2011/2/21 Leandro Gómez <leo.tel...@gmail.com> > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:21 AM, John Baer <bae...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Saleel Velankar <svela...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> John, >>>> >>>> Respectfully I add that once again the overwhelming conversation has >>>> been about organizing art, instead of art. It is pointless, boring, and >>>> lately highly divisive. We have already lost a team member that I highly >>>> respected. Arguing over flickr groups accomplishes nothing. absolutely >>>> nothing. Just PM the artists that have contributing to this other group. I >>>> have still not seen *any* valid argument from you as to why that group was >>>> still active after the illustration announcement; and why these PMs weren't >>>> already sent after vish's email. >>>> >>>> you know what, I typed all that but my original feeling was correct. >>>> Until this sort of nonsense is tuned down in this group, I don't think I >>>> will be actively contributing. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Saleel (Inactive) >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ubuntu-art mailing list >>>> ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com >>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art >>>> >>>> >>> Saleel, >>> >>> >> John, >> >> >>> I agree with you but from a different point of view. My contributions to >>> this group did not happen out of thin air. I invested countless hours in my >>> best attempts to add value to Ubuntu and the community and I like you grow >>> tired of the "rants" and the "flames". More so I have personally asked folks >>> to join and share their talents and to close their eyes and ears to the >>> behavior of late. >>> >>> There are 38 submissions to the "Ubuntu Wallpapers - General >>> Illustrations" group and some of these illustrations have thousands of >>> views. I can certainly ask them to resubmit to the other group but I can not >>> hide the perception the reason seems petty. >>> >>> >> Can we all agree on: >> >> * PM the artists asking them to submit their artwork to the official >> ubuntu-artwork group >> * Close the uawt-10-0 group >> >> Cheers, >> >> >>> Sadly I know there will come a time when planning will begin on Natty +1 >>> and I anticipate the question will be asked why is it so difficult to get >>> folks to participate. >>> >>> The lesson learned is here. >>> >>> With respect to your talent and your contributions. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> John >>> >>> -- >>> ubuntu-art mailing list >>> ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art >>> >>> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-art mailing list >> ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art >> >> > I believe the best I can do is to post a message advising them of the > change. I can not close the group as long as there are submissions and there > are links. > > Give a two weeks notice and then proceed to close the group. Keeping the group open is doing more harm than good. Please, John, do it for the team so we can move on to more productive things. Thanks, > This is the approach I took with the Edubuntu group but as you can see > submissions continued. > > Sadly and with out a doubt folks will walk away with a bitter taste in > their mouth and these folks are respected contributors to the greater > artwork community. > > Kind regards, > > John > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > >
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