On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Vishnoo <v...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 15:17 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Vishnoo <v...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 13:47 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote: > > > > > > I don't like the way this is discussion is turning out. > > > > > > > > > Of course, one disruptive member can cause a lot of > > problems. People > > > get frustrated, they resign and cease contributing to the > > team. > > > > > > > > > People resigning is what Сергей mentioned as the issue that is > > frustrating him. > > And hence why I mention how *very* hard Thorsten and Martin > > tried to > > talk to John into being more part of the team effort instead > > of his > > disruptive behavior. > > > > > But, honestly, do you really think the problems of this team > > can be > > > attributed to one single person's actions? > > > > > > No, this team as other problems too and they need to be fixed > > as well. > > > > > > > > I agree. I've been on this team for four whole years and there's a lot > > of things that needs to be fixed. > > > > > > If one member of the team is disruptive and causes a lot of problems, > > I think it's time for the admin to moderate him/her on the list or ban > > the person if the problem persists. Sadly, I'm not an admin, so I > > can't do anything. > > > > > > Please, fix this so we can move on. > > > > I wish it were as simple as just banning him! > Sadly banning John from this mailing list alone does not solve the > problems he creates. > > Well, there's not much more we can do?
> He actively contacts a large number of artists 'privately' and asks them > to take part in the existing contests, presenting himself as the > representative of the Ubuntu artwork community , and grabs their > interest. > Until this part everything is fantastic, but beyond this is where things > go completely wrong. He misdirects them to his private groups claiming > those to be the place to participate. > Why I never understood, but in his own words relying to the previous > thread: " I set up an environment which would protect their > contributions from the harsh criticism often found on this list. " !!!? > > IMO, he is acting like a Nigerian spam scammer, just robbing people of > their hard work. > > I'm not sure where/how this behavior can be stopped. > > You can't prevent people from creating private groups. The only thing we can do is to improve our communication skills and keep people informed. I think this is a clear example of what happens when you don't have appointed leaders or official communication channels and that is -IMO- our main problem. Not John, or Joseph, or Francesco. We need leadership and direction. Cheers, > -- > Cheers, > Vish > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art >
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