Dear Paul, Your numerical application of Bayes rule is correct. Thus given your model, your estimate is accurate assuming the numbers you assigned to your prior and conditional probabilities are accurate for your location.
However, you model the information provided by TWC as a binary variable (Either TWC says "70% chance of snow", or they say something else). This model has two weaknesses: First, it discards very relevant evidence actually provided to you by TWC --so you should not expect as accurate predictions as them-- , and second, more subtly, it does so in a particularly "weak" way, by aggregating together in the "something else" pieces of evidence that influence the probability of snow in opposite directions from "70% chance of snow". A model of identical complexity to yours that would not suffer from this flaw would still be a binary TWC variable with the values: TWC says "Chance of snow greater or equal to 70%" vs TWC says "Chance of snow less than 70%". A solution that maintains the structural simplicity of your model, and that at the same time captures a much larger fraction of the information provided by TWC that is relevant to your problem would be to model the TWC variable as a multinomial variable that can take the values TWC says: "100% chance of snow", "90% chance of snow", ... , "0% chance of snow". Best regards, Jorge Moraleda, Ph.D. Senior Research Scientist Ricoh Innovations, Inc. 2882 Sand Hill Road, Suite 115 Menlo Park, CA 94025-7054 Tel 650-496-5716 Fax 650-854-8740 > > I was working on a set of instructions to teach simple > two-hypothesis/one-evidence Bayesian updating. I came across a problem that > perplexed me. This can't be a new problem so I'm hoping someone will clear > things up for me. > > The problem > > 1. Question: What is the chance that it will snow next Monday? > > 2. My prior: 5% (because it typically snows about 5% of the days during > the winter) > > 3. Evidence: The Weather Channel (TWC) says there is a "70% chance of > snow" on Monday. > > 4. TWC forecasts of snow are calibrated. > > My initial answer is to claim that this problem is underspecified. So I add > > > 5. On winter days that it snows, TWC forecasts "70% chance of snow" > about 10% of the time > > 6. On winter days that it does not snow, TWC forecasts "70% chance of > snow" about 1% of the time. > > So now from P(S)=.05; P("70%"|S)=.10; and P("70%"|S)=.01 I apply Bayes rule > and deduce my posterior probability to be P(S|"70%") = .3448. > > Now it seems particularly odd that I would conclude there is only a 34% > chance of snow when TWC says there is a 70% chance. TWC knows so much more > about weather forecasting than I do. > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > Paul E. Lehner, Ph.D. > Consulting Scientist > The MITRE Corporation > (703) 983-7968 > pleh...@mitre.org<mailto:pleh...@mitre.org> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://secure.engr.oregonstate.edu/mailman/private/uai/attachments/20090213/f1ccafc0/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > uai mailing list > uai@ENGR.ORST.EDU > https://secure.engr.oregonstate.edu/mailman/listinfo/uai > > > End of uai Digest, Vol 50, Issue 12 > *********************************** > > > _______________________________________________ uai mailing list uai@ENGR.ORST.EDU https://secure.engr.oregonstate.edu/mailman/listinfo/uai