Hi Enric, Eddie,
On 6/17/26 10:19 AM, Enric Balletbo i Serra wrote:
Hi Quentin,
On Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 6:43 PM Quentin Schulz <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Enric,
Thanks for chiming in.
On 6/4/26 8:22 AM, Enric Balletbo i Serra wrote:
Hi Quentin and Eddie,
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 4:38 PM Quentin Schulz <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Eddie,
On 5/22/26 12:29 AM, Eddie Kovsky wrote:
On 05/12/26, Quentin Schulz wrote:
Hi Eddie,
On 4/29/26 8:02 PM, Eddie Kovsky wrote:
[...]
Does it makes sense?
Somewhat. I still don't understand the obsession with the Provider API
when the issue (as I understand it) is "I cannot compile OpenSSL engine
support and I don't need it".
To clarify the "obsession" point, which I think is an unfortunate
take, my impression was that this wasn't just about throwing a quick,
blind hack at a Fedora compiler error. The build failure was simply
the trigger.
I think "no engine support anymore, so providers must be supported" was
a shortcut many could have taken. I understand (and really appreciate)
the intent of trying to improve the situation instead of "just" patching
a build failure and be done with it (after all, I myself just installed
openssl-devel-engine when I got the build error instead of putting in
the work Eddie did).
Eddie put significant effort into researching the modern OpenSSL 3.x
API, studying how to phase out legacy, deprecated components, looking
at the U-Boot's testing infrastructure, and trying to proactively
modernize U-Boot's backend based on established upstream kernel
patterns.
I agree, now, and this is the beauty of discussions, that the kernel
approach is not enough due to its narrow scope. U-Boot’s edge cases
make a full API migration heavier than expected. However, trying to
actively clean up technical debt is a valuable goal, and
characterizing it as a mere obsession with a build error can be quite
discouraging for new contributors putting in real work to improve the
codebase.
I do realize that "obsession" was too strong of a word and I apologize
to Eddie and you. I appreciate the feedback and will try to do better.
Cheers,
Quentin
