Detlev Zundel <d...@denx.de> wrote on 2010-04-08 12:00:05:
>
> Hi Jocke,
Hi Detlev :)
>
> >> > > To me it looks like the new code would indeed do a "greedy"
> >> > > substitution
> >> > > only stopping when no more substitutions can be done. This is very
> >> > > un-unixy and thus not something I'd like to see as a default behaviour.
> >> >
> >> > Why not? What is gained by the current method?
> >>
> >> We follow the principle of least surprise [1]; the command line
> >> interpeter in U-Boot should behave as similar to a (say, POSIX
> >> compatible) shell as possible. Restrictions and deviations are not
> >> intentional, but caused by the attempt to do with a minimal memory
> >> footprint.
> >>
> >> Like Detlev I feel/fear that the suggested change will cause more
> >> annoyance due to unexpected behaviour that it will do good.
> >
> > what bad do you think it might do? You mentioned the possibility
> > to pass arg=$(name) literally(why would you do that?)
> > Have you ever done that?
>
> Nope, I haven't, but if some linux commandline parameter needs such a
> construct, I surely do not want to change the U-Boot shell to be able to
> do it. The change you propose would make such a thing impossible.
>
> > Then one should be able to
> > pass $(linuxip) too, which you can't.
>
> Why do you think so?
>
> => run nfsargs addip addtty addfb
> => prin ipaddr
> ipaddr=192.168.160.43
> => setenv bootargs ${bootargs} \${ipaddr}
Oh, so there is an escape char(\) after all. I got the impression that
there wasn't one.
> => bootm ${kernel_addr}
>
> [....]
>
> -bash-3.2# cat /proc/cmdline
> root=/dev/nfs rw nfsroot=192.168.1.1:/opt/eldk/ppc_6xx
> ip=192.168.160.43:192.168.1.1:192.168.83.201:255.255.0.0:pdm360ng:eth0:off
> panic=1 console=tty0 console=ttyPSC5,115200 fbcon=map:5 video=fslfb:
> 800x480...@60 ${ipaddr}
>
> >> I also see little actual need for such an extension, as in all cases
> >> I've seen so far it has been possible to acchieve the goal without
> >> code changes by just minimal adjustments of the definitions. For
> >> example, your code:
> >>
> >> linuxip=ip=$(ipaddr)::$(gatewayip):$(netmask):$(hostname):$(linuxif):off
> >> tboot=setenv bootargs $(linuxroot) $(linuxip) $(extra);tftp 100000; bootm
> >> 100000
> >>
> >> could be rewritten from plain variable definitions into an equivalent
> >> command sequence, like that:
> >>
> >> setenv setip 'setenv bootargs ${bootargs} ip=${ipaddr}::${gatewayip}:$
> >> {netmask}:${hostname}:${linuxif}:off'
> >>
> >> Do the same for "linuxroot" (=> setroot) and "extra" (=> setextra),
> >> and then use:
> >>
> >> setenv tboot 'run setroot setip setextra;tftp 100000;bootm'
> >>
> >> will do exactly what you want. Detlev quoted similar code earlier.
> >> This is what many, many existing boards use, and what we explain in
> >> great detail in the manual.
> >
> > While you can do that, it is ugly and clumsy(which was why I wrote the
> > patch)
> >
> > I want the shell to make things simpler/easier for me and the above
> > isn't either.
>
> This is a personal preference. Personally I value the quoted principle
> of least surprise more. Moreover I much rather make all use cases
> possible and maybe use some extra characters for exotic ones rather than
> precluding a specific use case completely in order to save a few
> characters.
Since an escape char appear to exist, one should be able to use it much like you
did above so I don't think that any use case disappears. Instead the common
usage
becomes simpler and the so far artificial use case needs an extra escape char.
Jocke
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