Hi Jocke,
>> > > To me it looks like the new code would indeed do a "greedy" substitution
>> > > only stopping when no more substitutions can be done. This is very
>> > > un-unixy and thus not something I'd like to see as a default behaviour.
>> >
>> > Why not? What is gained by the current method?
>>
>> We follow the principle of least surprise [1]; the command line
>> interpeter in U-Boot should behave as similar to a (say, POSIX
>> compatible) shell as possible. Restrictions and deviations are not
>> intentional, but caused by the attempt to do with a minimal memory
>> footprint.
>>
>> Like Detlev I feel/fear that the suggested change will cause more
>> annoyance due to unexpected behaviour that it will do good.
>
> what bad do you think it might do? You mentioned the possibility
> to pass arg=$(name) literally(why would you do that?)
> Have you ever done that?
Nope, I haven't, but if some linux commandline parameter needs such a
construct, I surely do not want to change the U-Boot shell to be able to
do it. The change you propose would make such a thing impossible.
> Then one should be able to
> pass $(linuxip) too, which you can't.
Why do you think so?
=> run nfsargs addip addtty addfb
=> prin ipaddr
ipaddr=192.168.160.43
=> setenv bootargs ${bootargs} \${ipaddr}
=> bootm ${kernel_addr}
[....]
-bash-3.2# cat /proc/cmdline
root=/dev/nfs rw nfsroot=192.168.1.1:/opt/eldk/ppc_6xx
ip=192.168.160.43:192.168.1.1:192.168.83.201:255.255.0.0:pdm360ng:eth0:off
panic=1 console=tty0 console=ttyPSC5,115200 fbcon=map:5
video=fslfb:800x480...@60 ${ipaddr}
>> I also see little actual need for such an extension, as in all cases
>> I've seen so far it has been possible to acchieve the goal without
>> code changes by just minimal adjustments of the definitions. For
>> example, your code:
>>
>> linuxip=ip=$(ipaddr)::$(gatewayip):$(netmask):$(hostname):$(linuxif):off
>> tboot=setenv bootargs $(linuxroot) $(linuxip) $(extra);tftp 100000; bootm
>> 100000
>>
>> could be rewritten from plain variable definitions into an equivalent
>> command sequence, like that:
>>
>> setenv setip 'setenv bootargs ${bootargs} ip=${ipaddr}::${gatewayip}:$
>> {netmask}:${hostname}:${linuxif}:off'
>>
>> Do the same for "linuxroot" (=> setroot) and "extra" (=> setextra),
>> and then use:
>>
>> setenv tboot 'run setroot setip setextra;tftp 100000;bootm'
>>
>> will do exactly what you want. Detlev quoted similar code earlier.
>> This is what many, many existing boards use, and what we explain in
>> great detail in the manual.
>
> While you can do that, it is ugly and clumsy(which was why I wrote the patch)
>
> I want the shell to make things simpler/easier for me and the above
> isn't either.
This is a personal preference. Personally I value the quoted principle
of least surprise more. Moreover I much rather make all use cases
possible and maybe use some extra characters for exotic ones rather than
precluding a specific use case completely in order to save a few
characters.
Cheers
Detlev
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