> On Mar 1, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Adi Roiban <a...@roiban.ro> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 18:09, Glyph <gl...@twistedmatrix.com 
> <mailto:gl...@twistedmatrix.com>> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> I can't quickly find the place where we agreed to this, but I think several 
> years ago at this point we had a discussion about moving all these docs into 
> the source tree.  (If they're on the wiki, there's no review process or even 
> a place where updates can be staged for commentary before going live and 
> becoming "official".)
> 
>> Until this is fully completed, what is the correct thing to do when there is 
>> a mismatch between docs on the wiki, and docs in the tree?
> 
> Docs in the tree always win.
> 
>> I still refer to a lot of docs on the wiki, especially for process related 
>> things,
>> so I think it would be nice if the wiki docs were kept up to date, until the 
>> day that
>> they are fully deleted.
> 
> Let's start deleting them now, and replacing them with links to the in-tree 
> docs, rather than updating them.  They've been skewing out of date for a long 
> time.  When I was looking for information about how to do a revert, I found 
> wiki docs about linking to revisions in Subversion which didn't mention 
> Github, which gives a flavor for how outdated some of this stuff is.
> 
> Thomas, would you mind doing the honors for this document?  Links for process 
> docs should probably be to https://docs.twistedmatrix.com/en/latest/ 
> <https://docs.twistedmatrix.com/en/latest/> since, for process information 
> (unlike API information), trunk should be authoritative, not the latest 
> release.
> 
> 
> I don't know what wiki page we are talking about here. Any link would help.

Upthread (in the [snip]'d part), Craig referenced 
https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/TwistedDevelopment 
<https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/TwistedDevelopment>, and I thought we'd 
migrated some stuff from there.  If not, never mind.

> I see this wiki page and it already has a redirection: 
> https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/ReleaseProcess 
> <https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/ReleaseProcess>
> 
> My suggestion is that next time a dev needs to update a wiki page, 
> she/he/they should consider moving that page to twisted/twisted repo
> narrative docs and create a PR for that change.

Sounds good to me.

> From this wiki page https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/TwistedDevelopment 
> <https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/TwistedDevelopment>
> 
> I see that Security and Review Process are not yet migrated to narrativedocs.

Does someone want to go file tickets for those?

> And I think that "Contributor Advancement Path" can be removed as we now have 
> an informal processes for giving write access to the repo.

Perhaps this proposal has been rejected but I think we should leave a stub in 
there saying that we could really use some help with a formal process.  The 
informal process is sort of necessary at the moment, but implicit processes 
tend to overlook quieter people, and people who are less sure of themselves in 
the open source social context.  However, improving this process is going to be 
some work, and we'll have to find someone willing to do it.

-g

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