>> I have to disagree here BTW. When I started using Twisted as a WSGI >> container, I was vexed by its lack of docs (and I’m still confused about >> many details). There’s a few blog posts around but none of them reach the >> straight-forwardibility of e.g. gunicorn’s docs. I’ve ended up asking >> around on IRC, stealing from Donald/PyPI, and reading source code. > All I was saying here is that frameworks have gotten better about being "just > WSGI" and not requiring a lot of crazy customization on the framework side of > things. But, you're absolutely right that we need better docs, many parts of > the setup are not obvious!
Yeah, I didn’t actually mean to disagree as much as use it as an opportunity to voice something that has been brewing in me for a while. :) >> There’s also barely any information on *why* one would want to use Twisted >> as a WSGI container. And please keep in mind that to many, many (most >> likely: the majority) of Python users “pure Python” doesn’t mean “safe” but >> “slow.” C.f. all those “lightning fast pure C” frameworks popping up left >> and right, upvoted to nirvana on reddit and its likes. If we want to do >> marketing, we have to be a tad more user-focused. :) > Yep. And things like Moshe's talk are wonderful resources to try to > illuminate this unfortunately dark area, so I do appreciate people taking the > time to do them. I do also think that being a bit more strategic about it > might result in vastly greater adoption though. Yeah Moshe’s evangelism made me interested in the topic but it’s hard to find anything more than his material. Particularly a good reference guide. As you wrote, the particular integration with web frameworks is trivial (but should be provided!) >> What I’m saying is that this topic shouldn’t be relegated into some wiki >> (where information famously is going to die) but should be a prominent tab >> on the landing page (maybe with additional information for specific >> frameworks in the wiki). > The front page is also the wiki :-). I'm happy to have it there, I just > think that it should perhaps be workshopped a little bit on a draft page > first. Heh absolutely. Just wanna stress that it should come right after “Web Server” in the “Code Examples” tabs. :) *** Oh and I’d like to propose to officially merge the twisted-web mailing list into this one. I don’t think it makes any sense to separate those two anymore. It’s hard to do anything without web nowadays. :) _______________________________________________ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
