* Albert Cervera i Areny: " Re: [tryton-dev] Request testing of new sale_opportunity workflow" (Fri, 27 Feb 2015 19:04:36 +0100):
> 2015-02-27 18:21 GMT+01:00 Cédric Krier <[email protected]>: > > On 27 Feb 17:22, Albert Cervera i Areny wrote: > >> 2015-02-27 16:45 GMT+01:00 Cédric Krier <[email protected]>: > >> > On 27 Feb 15:47, Albert Cervera i Areny wrote: > >> >> 2015-02-27 15:45 GMT+01:00 Albert Cervera i Areny <[email protected]>: > >> >> > 2015-02-27 13:00 GMT+01:00 Cédric Krier <[email protected]>: > >> >> >> Hi, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I would like to push the issue3320 [1] before the 3.6 release. > >> >> >> As it is quite a big workflow change, I would like to have feedback > >> >> >> on it. > >> >> > > >> >> > Though I did not test the patch: > >> >> > > >> >> > - I like the general workflow and it is, in fact, what we're already > >> >> > using in our installs > >> >> > - I would consider making it possible to use the "convert button" > >> >> > several times. So it is possible to create another sale instead of > >> >> > creating a new one and using the origin or instead of duplicating the > >> >> > existing sale. We did that change and renamed "Convert" to "Create > >> >> > sale". In fact, for me "Convert" is misleading as a conversion is when > >> >> > you convert a lead into a paying customer [1]. > >> > > >> > I think the convert is the correct term. > >> > >> Could you point to some place where the term "Convert" is used in the > >> same sense that it is being used in Tryton? Everything I can find uses > >> the term for getting paying customers or paid sales. Not converting a > >> lead into a quotation which is the first step of the sale. > > > > I think it is a matter of usage. It could fit the general meaning or > > not. The user will decide when he does the convertion so he will decide > > the meaning. He could convert only when the sale is sure to be done or > > he could convert at a state where he is not sure at all. > > So I don't think it is wrong to call a button that "convert" an object > > into an other object "convert". > > I see. Yet, maybe it is only me but when I think of converting one > object into another it means that the former disappears. That's why we > "create" an invoice, not "convert" the sale into an invoice. Same feeling here. We also *create* purchases from purchase requests and so on. > On the other hand, we have a button named "Convert to Opportunity" > which converts Lead into an Opportunity because the same object is > changed from one state to another. I would also leave the term 'Convert' to this specific functionality in Lead/Opportunity Management. -- Mathias Behrle MBSolutions Gilgenmatten 10 A D-79114 Freiburg Tel: +49(761)471023 Fax: +49(761)4770816 http://www.m9s.biz UStIdNr: DE 142009020 PGP/GnuPG key availabable from any keyserver, ID: 0x8405BBF6
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